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All Forum Posts by: Parker Ihrie

Parker Ihrie has started 0 posts and replied 27 times.

Post: Please help analyze this JV deal (Detroit)

Parker IhriePosted
  • Professional
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 25

@Andrew Halbert, this is a loan.  Why do you want to structure it this way?  

Post: Detroit, MI market

Parker IhriePosted
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  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 25

I live in Corktown, a small neighborhood immediately west of the Detroit CBD and I am a commercial real estate attorney just getting started with my own investments.  I am involved with ULI and interact with investors/developers regularly.  I definitely don't believe the naysayers.  You really have to be here to feel the enthusiasm and excitement about the city.  There are SO many things happening here and downtown that are revitalizing the city, beginning with the urban core and slowly spreading out to the neighborhoods.  Who says you can't make money flipping here?!  A new flip is listed almost daily.  Many of those flips are beautifully restored mansions in Boston Edison or Palmer Woods that require large outlays, but there are also the smaller projects in West Village, Corktown and the North End.  Yes, taxes can be high.  I own my condo in Corktown and I currently pay about 1400/year because it is in an NEZ district (read: property tax discount), but I'm not looking forward to when that expires.  In my opinion, if you buy right you can navigate around those impediments.  Over 80 restaurants opened in Detroit in the last two years.  We are nowhere near saturation regarding residential/multifamily.  More jobs keep coming to the city center.  The new stadium and surrounding district is going to be the best in the country.  The bankruptcy was a good thing for the city, although it certainly affected many residents of the city and surrounding communities.  There are negatives, too, such as the school system, taxes (as mentioned), crime, blight, etc., but I believe this city is in a long trend upward and onward.

Post: Selecting an Agent (Metro Detroit, Michigan)

Parker IhriePosted
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  • Detroit, MI
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  • Votes 25

Thomas Ihrie (full disclosure: he's my brother) with Keller Williams.  He has special expertise when it comes to representing investors, since he is an investor himself and is well connected in the metro Detroit investor community.  

Post: Hello

Parker IhriePosted
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  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 25

Welcome, John!  I am doing the same.  My brother and I just got started a little while ago, so we are in the same boat.  I live in Corktown (and I happen to be a real estate attorney), so if you have any questions please let me know!

Post: A real estate job in ______ field will help me most.

Parker IhriePosted
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  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 25

If you get a salesperson license, which would line up with your requirements, try to work with a broker who also does property management.  You could then gain experience with the transaction aspect and the management aspect.  Commercial lending is a good idea, too.  I would look into becoming a mortgage broker or finding a "conduit" lender to work for, like Bernard or Ladder.  However, if you work for a lender like that you would probably get sucked into underwriting in the beginning, which is not glamorous and may pigeonhole you.  Another good option would be to find out who the major multifamily players are in the area and apply for a job with them doing pretty much anything and then work your way up.  

Post: Are we smart, or taking the easy way out? We need your opinion.

Parker IhriePosted
  • Professional
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 25

To add to @Ubaldo M Gomez, I too work with my brother on our real estate investments.  I maintain my job while he focuses full time on real estate.  He has his salesperson license and he started a wholesaling company.  Works great for lending (so far), finding deals and legal!

Post: Are we smart, or taking the easy way out? We need your opinion.

Parker IhriePosted
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  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 25

Hey Chad, 

I am a commercial real estate attorney in the Detroit area with some small investments on the side (please note that none of this is legal advice and shouldn't be taken as such). I am just getting started in my career as an attorney (I've been practicing for three years) and investor, but I have worked on hundreds of large deals. Many of those deals involve the acquisition, financing (CMBS loans, usually) and disposition of large apartment complexes located throughout the country. I do not think that your ultimate goal is too lofty, but I do think that you should probably gain a good track record and learn as much as you can first. You will need access to money - not just bank financing, but private equity, as well. In order to do that, you will need experience. Obviously each deal is different and there are different requirements depending on the size, but I think you guys have it right. Learn as much as you can. Keep acquiring 2-4 unit properties (5+ units qualifies as commercial, as I'm sure you already know). Grow your cash flow and continue to save money for bigger and bigger deals. Our clients are generally moderately to very sophisticated. They have been in the real estate world for years, starting as either a second generation developer/investor or beginning their careers as attorneys, accountants, brokers, agents, etc. Obviously that doesn't apply to everyone, though. Some certainly start from nothing and create a career simply from real estate investing.

As far as leaving your day job in IT for a day job in real estate, only you can make that decision.  It depends many factors, such as your seniority and pay in your IT job versus where you would have to start in real estate.  You may have a very solid salary that you wouldn't be able to obtain right off the bat in real estate.  It would probably take you some time to really start making some more money in a real estate day job.  For example, you would need to be a real estate salesperson for at least three years before you can take the broker's test.  The people that I deal with day to day are developers/investors (some of which are institutional, but many of which are private major players - I mention this because you can certainly pursue working for a developer in some capacity), title companies, property managers, brokers, real estate agents, leasing agents, mortgage brokers/loan officers, large tenants' real estate departments and many city officials/workers.  It totally depends on what you want to do.  The title people I know are, in my opinion, the most immersed in the community (meaning they have the most real estate connections) due to the nature of what they do; however, they don't necessarily get much experience on the business or mechanical side of the transaction.  Brokers and agents closely follow the transaction from start to finish (if they're worth their salt), so they get a very good idea of the acquisition, sales and leasing aspects; however, they are not involved with day to day activities.  They are generally gone once the transaction has ended.  Mortgage brokers and loan officers, if they're good, can get to know many people in the industry and learn a ton about financing.  These are just a few examples that don't require extra schooling (although many title people are lawyers and certain other certifications may be required for the other examples).  It really just depends on what you want to accomplish with a RE day job and what you think you would enjoy.  Plus, you're young so you have time to switch careers!

The bottom line is that I don't think you are taking the easy way out.  I think it's smart.  You will build your RE knowledge brick by brick (no RE pun intended) while continuing to grow your own portfolio.  These are just my opinions from my short experience, so take it for what it is.  Feel free to reach out to speak further and good luck!