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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Stone

Patrick Stone has started 0 posts and replied 6 times.

Quote from @Lisa T.:

Ironically ... I was on uTube this weekend and watched a post by Ali Boone on Detroit.  Her new contact there is none other than Al Bazzy with Strategy Properties.  It blew my mind that Strategy Properties is out there with the same sales pitch and talking about the great work their rehab teams do. I could show you shocking pictures of that not being the case and they were always months late in delivering the final rehab.  He talked up the property manager they refer their buyers to.  [I'm assuming it's still Autumn Property Management.  Everyone knows that Autumn ran Strategy Properties in-house property management team, ProWay, before she started her own company and 30 days later we were all unceremoniously 'assigned' to her new company.  I think that's common knowledge, right?]

I have always followed Ali Boone, and learned a lot from her but this was an eye-opener.  We connected with Strategy Properties through Real Wealth Network.  I naively assumed if someone had an affiliate or preferred vendor they would do a better job of vetting them AND if things went wrong would proactively make things right.  Tough and very expensive lesson to learn.


 Hi Lisa,

Your contribution to the overwhelming dissatisfaction with Autumn Property Management (APM) was an eyeopener. but there are a couple of comments that I don't believe is accurate.

I started with Strategy back in 2015 and just before they spun off the property management division, they created ProWay and sold that to APM.  The partnership with Strategy/ProWay APM was very short lived, so Strategy hooked up with Real Property Management (RPM) to manage the investment homes they sold.  Yes, some of the tradesmen Strategy used were very poor and I also had a couple experiences with that, however, my complaints were always rectified at Strategy expense and also waved the new tenant fee because if what happened.

I have just parted way with APM and now spending over 10K to bring the property back because of the poor workmanship from trades people when they eventually showed up.  They stopped attending to repairs requested by the tenant and not even dealing with the city on certs?  I have just completed a complaint with BBB on APM and got no resolve!!

RPM has been wonderful to deal with and get immediate action, best of all is the rent money is deposited within days of them receiving it, before the 8th of the month...APM payments went into the following month.

Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Patrick Stone @Geraldine Araneda they are now also terminating owners, claiming they don't have enough staff to manage.


 Hi Drew, yes I got the same notice but I gave them my 60 day notice at the start of August.  I'm officially out from under them, but have not received a dime or a statement since August.  They say they will settle-up this week??

Quote from @Geraldine Araneda:

I posted a complaint on BBB years back & they immediately called me asking me to remove it and they’d perform much better. I told them prove it first for a year, then I’d remove it. Needless to say, I didn’t remove it!

The two that I posted today including a review was rejected?
I’m going to spread word on other platforms 

Good day, Since there are so many dissatisfied property owners with Autumn Property Management, why is there no complaints with BBB?

I have placed one today on the BBB site as I have been defrauded by this APM co and intend to follow-up with an Attorney.

Quote from @Lisa T.:

Has anyone hired an attorney to try collect rent tenants paid Autumn Property Mgmt but rents not never received by owner? 


 Hi Lisa, I just joined today and was wondering if you ever got any response to anyone connecting with an attorney to file Fraud charges against APM?

Quote from @Stephen Allen:

I had the same problem with these companies. They have changed names 3 times and when Autumn took over in December 2020 I lost $8533 both Proway and Autumn say they don't have the money, I am now taking legal against them. Anyone else loose money?


 Hi Stephen and all other investors that deal with Autumn Property Management.  I'm sure we all have had and are still having bad experiences with APM and if anyone one has consulted an attorney, please lets do this together.   They are committing Froud with all their business practices.