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All Forum Posts by: Pete Harper

Pete Harper has started 91 posts and replied 501 times.

Post: Information about HUD properties

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494
Quote from @Reese Nichols:

I'm new into real estate currently seeking my first real estate property where I live over in east Texas. Im interested in house hacking and I'm trying to pull together as many leads/ways to find on-market/off-market deals. I came across HUD properties and am wanting some advice on them. Are they good? Pros/cons? Financing? Any advice possible would be great!


 Additionally you may want to consider your county tax auction.  Go to your county web site and they should have a link to the monthly tax auction on the courthouse steps.  These are properties usually with over three years back taxes owed.  In many cases the original owner is deceased.  Many of the properties are in very rough condition having sat vacant.  Bidding starts at the amount owed on taxes.  Be prepared to pay cash on the day of the sale.   

Post: Line of Credit Options for Commercial

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494

I don't follow you. Assume I use $100k from LOC to purchase a duplex. I put another $20k LOC funds into renovations. Three months later the ARV is $180k rented with long term tenants paying $900 each. If I do cash out refi I can pull 75% of appraised value or $135k. Payback the $120k LOC and still have $15k cash. No seasoning period on the duplex.

Post: Line of Credit Options for Commercial

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494
Quote from @Erik Estrada:
Quote from @Pete Harper:

I wanted to see what line of credit loan products that are available for commercial. I own several properties 100% that are held within an LLC that I would like to be able to tap the equity without taking out a conventional loan. I know that HELOC loans are not available to commercial investors but looking for something similar. I had planned on doing a BRRRR but with interest rates so high I can't see taking out a 30 year fixed interest loan. It would be nice to have a line of credit that I could quickly tap should a good deal come along.

Property #1 is a duplex that I own outright. It was purchased and renovated as the second property in a BRRRR chain. Funding for purchase and renovations came from cash-out refi on another 4-plex (not property #3) Gross rents $2400.

Property #2 is a 12 unit apartment complex that we paid cash for.  We've owned it two years now and have it stabilized, fully rented and with higher rents.  Gross Rents $8400

Property #3 is a 4-plex that we paid cash for and renovated.  We've owned it three years now having it stabilized and fully rented. Gross Rents $3200


For any 1-4 unit, You can do a second mortgage on non owner occupied properties. Max CLTV is 85% and the max cash out is $475,000 per property.

Maybe I wasn't clear, none of the three properties have first mortgages.  Properties are held by LLC so I need to go commercial.  I'm not looking to do conventional mortgage with interest rates so high.  With LOC I only need to tap what I need.  I don't have capital sitting around paying high interest.  LOC would be ideal. I just need to find a lender.

Post: Line of Credit Options for Commercial

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494
Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Pete Harper:

I wanted to see what line of credit loan products that are available for commercial. I own several properties 100% that are held within an LLC that I would like to be able to tap the equity without taking out a conventional loan. I know that HELOC loans are not available to commercial investors but looking for something similar. I had planned on doing a BRRRR but with interest rates so high I can't see taking out a 30 year fixed interest loan. It would be nice to have a line of credit that I could quickly tap should a good deal come along.

Property #1 is a duplex that I own outright. It was purchased and renovated as the second property in a BRRRR chain. Funding for purchase and renovations came from cash-out refi on another 4-plex (not property #3) Gross rents $2400.

Property #2 is a 12 unit apartment complex that we paid cash for.  We've owned it two years now and have it stabilized, fully rented and with higher rents.  Gross Rents $8400

Property #3 is a 4-plex that we paid cash for and renovated.  We've owned it three years now having it stabilized and fully rented. Gross Rents $3200

 @Pete Harper    What are you looking to do with the equity?  Are you looking to buy properties distressed with cash (from the line of credit) and then put permanent long term financing on the properties paying back the line of credit? 

On a recent episode of BP they talked about the change in loan seasoning time from six to twelve months.  David Greene said he was using a LOC to get around the seasoning period.  Buy using the LOC then refinance into a conventional loan.  Since the property is not held as collateral for LOC the seasoning period doesn't apply.  

Personally I have two things in mind. First I purchased an off-market duplex that needs work.  Normally I self fund renovations from income on other properties but if I had a LOC I could complete work faster. I'm always looking for off-market deals.  If I had LOC I could be in a position to pay cash for faster closing.  Maybe use David G's LOC strategy.  

Post: Line of Credit Options for Commercial

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494
Quote from @Joshua Franklin:

Hey Pete, have you looked into a private money loan?

I'm trying to stay away from private money and hard money lenders. Their rates and fees are exorbitant. The LLC has excellent credit history, 25% debt to equity, and FICO over 800. I should be able to find a more traditional lower cost option. We are in Texas if that makes a difference.

Post: Line of Credit Options for Commercial

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494

I wanted to see what line of credit loan products that are available for commercial. I own several properties 100% that are held within an LLC that I would like to be able to tap the equity without taking out a conventional loan. I know that HELOC loans are not available to commercial investors but looking for something similar. I had planned on doing a BRRRR but with interest rates so high I can't see taking out a 30 year fixed interest loan. It would be nice to have a line of credit that I could quickly tap should a good deal come along.

Property #1 is a duplex that I own outright. It was purchased and renovated as the second property in a BRRRR chain. Funding for purchase and renovations came from cash-out refi on another 4-plex (not property #3) Gross rents $2400.

Property #2 is a 12 unit apartment complex that we paid cash for.  We've owned it two years now and have it stabilized, fully rented and with higher rents.  Gross Rents $8400

Property #3 is a 4-plex that we paid cash for and renovated.  We've owned it three years now having it stabilized and fully rented. Gross Rents $3200

Post: bought a house but found the construction permit is missing

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494

I would start with the title company.  Situations like this are exactly why you buy title insurance.  Besides they have deeper pockets.  Title company will go after the seller if he did anything wrong.  

Don't give up on the city so easily.  Keep calling until you get a live person.  If they will not help ask to talk to supervisor.  The city will have a copy of the original permit and what inspections have been done.  Again it might be something as simple as someone forgot to file a final inspection.  The guy on the phone might just be trying to cover their mistake.

Since you have a loan you can also get your bank involved.  The bank has better lawyers and deeper pockets than you do.  The bank has a vested interest in proving you and they having clear title.  

Don't underestimate the cost of a lawyer.  Most charge about $400/hr.  Adds up quickly. Best to let the big dogs take the lead.

Post: bought a house but found the construction permit is missing

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494

How the heck did this get through the title company?  All-Cash sale?  The lack of building permits should have been flagged by the title search.  If you go in the county website do you see your property listed along with the home?  You likely have recourse through the title company and the title insurance.  I would start there.  Seller sounds like a dead-beat.

The other option is to go to the city and request a copy of the old building permit.  You might get lucky and find out the final inspection wasn't done or it was not properly recorded.  You might have the option to pick up on the old building permit and finish final inspections.  The more information you have the better you'll be able to figure out the best path forward.

Post: Help with purchasing off market deal

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494

Download your state real estate contract form.  It should be readily available from your board of realtors or use a previous contract as a template.  If you are comfortable I would negotiate the deal directly with the seller.  You can have a lawyer review before you finalize.  Personally I would not involve an agent.  You've already done the hard part finding the deal.  Set up the closing at your preferred title company. We just did an off-market closing last week.  It was a trustee sale.  We ended up working with a sellers agent but I never got my own agent. The deal was straight forward, no need to complicate things with another agent.  I was able to negotiate a price $20k below asking and the seller paid for half a new roof.

Avoid wholesalers.  

Post: Looking to Invest in a rental in Waco

Pete HarperPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Streetman, TX
  • Posts 525
  • Votes 494
Quote from @Trevor Caswell:
Quote from @Noelle Stecher:

Hi.  I am looking to buy a rental property in Waco, but I am not too familiar with the area.  I have done the neighborhood research online and have a general sense of the neighborhoods, but I am looking for any advice from people who know the area or who have investment properties there.  What areas are good?  What areas to stay away from? Any advice is welcome! Thanks!

I would focus on School districts and established neighborhoods for your search. You will find many charming 1920-1960's homes here in Waco, but your tenants may not be comfortable with the area. 

School Districts:
Midway ISD
China Spring ISD
Bosqueville ISD
Robinson ISD
Lorena ISD

Waco Neighborhoods:
Dean Highland
Landon Branch 
Castle Heights 
Brookview
Sanger Heights 
Fishpond 
Viking Hills

The issue you'll run into is the cashflow on these turnkey rentals. You won't be able to get the rent much higher than $1600-1800 on a 3BR 2BA in most Waco neighborhoods. This is why you may want to look at Hewitt and Midway ISD area, due to desirability from families moving into the area. 

Baylor bubble is very hard to break into and oversaturated with landlords with heavy pockets. I would stay away from there unless you have a child going to school there. 
I agree the Baylor Bubble is tough.  We looked at several properties there.  Close in the prices are inflated.  Nothing would cash flow at the current asking price.  We looked at a 4-plex and it was heavily subsidized by two families that had kids going to Baylor.  The last kid was going to graduate and they were looking to exit.  Another property a few blocks out had a vacancy problem.  I spoke with a local PM and was told if you don't rent by Fall semester it will sit open all year.  Very little cross over from the non-student market.