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All Forum Posts by: Andrey Y.

Andrey Y. has started 114 posts and replied 1827 times.

Post: First deal in a while! Lessons learned and analysis

Andrey Y.Posted
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@Elizabeth Colegrove  Much appreciated :) What do you mean by, "I do thing at 80%", was that a typo?

Thanks for the encouragement! What did Michael Jordan say, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take..

Here is the quick deal analysis:

Purchase price: $151,000

Rental income: $19,200  (Conservative estimate of $1600/mo. rent, average in this neighborhood for the same sq. ft., this unit in a bit above average shape)

Total Operating Expenses: $7,302   (Total maintenance fees: $6,168, Property insurance: $320, Taxes: $564, Repairs + Misc: $250 {my total cost for repairs in my studio rental in the last 2.5 years were $0, but to be conservative}, Utilities: $0 {tenant pays})

NOI: $11,898

CFAT: $11,898

CAP rate: 7.9%

Can someone help me calculate CoC ROI and total ROI? Honestly, 3 different REI calculators all gave me different values for ROI!

Also, >1% rule achieved! Has anyone else exceeded this in the Hawaii, Southern CA, Boston, etc. markets?

Post: First deal in a while! Lessons learned and analysis

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So I will try to describe as briefly as I can my latest experience. Been in the market for an investment property the last 3 weeks or so. Started looking in the area I currently live in, as many people know in Hawaii and Southern Cali, it can be hard to find places that cash flow well.

After looking into leaseholds, short story= no. Then I moved over to a different part of the island hoping to find a better cash flowing property. The first potential deal fell here through, because a large number of the units in this building had enclosed their lanais, not officially to code, but this was approved by the association before any official rules were in place. Go figure. Now lawyers and 'gathering enough signatures' were involved= no.

I looked at a few 2bed/1bath places before noticing a new one (2bed/1bath/2parking) had just come on the market, and priced about $10-15k below market value. Oh boy. I knew a bidding war was going to brew, but I was interested. I offered the list price, ~$140,000, cash offer. I was told that the seller would NOT be reviewing any offers until after the first open house, set for a few days later. 

After the open house, I was told that there were 6 offers already, then 9. And that one of the offers was somewhere in between the recent comps for that area: high 140s to ~$165,000, but "closer to the higher one", but with financing, not cash. I also learned somewhere along the line, that the house was owned by a mom and son, and the mom recently passed. I was suggested by my agent to offer $153k.

THE INTERESTING PART: I was ready to offer the above, then just 2 mornings after the open house, my father who was communicating with a broker in my area, was told by the broker that there were 16 OFFERS, only 2 cash. One cash offer was at list, and the other was "slightly above list". At this point, my $151,000 all cash offer was already submitted. That begs the question, was my 151 'slightly above list'?! I felt like I was overpaying a bit because I knew the seller wanted all cash and a quick close. But I was told that if I asked for any sellers assist or any offer reduction, the would accept another cash offer that was "close to mine". I knew the value here so I accepted.

Your thoughts guys!! 

1. Do you think I handled the challenges well? I had to go through the above while working fulltime. 

2. More importantly, what could I have done better or smoother?

3. Side note, is it okay or ethical to correspond with another broker/agent in this case. Keep in mind, my father corresponded with him and forwarded me the email.

I truly appreciate everyone's feedback and tootelige (I know spelling is horrible). And wish me luck for a quick close :)

The DEAL ANALYSIS and numbers are to follow.

Post: Would you travel 7,531 miles to attend a Real Estate Happy Hour in Korea?

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Wow.. sorry it was erroring my post when I was trying to write some Korean.

Post: Would you travel 7,531 miles to attend a Real Estate Happy Hour in Korea?

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Great trip!!

And yes I would cause Seoul is a freaking awesome city. I may be working there in 2016 so see you guys on the flipside.

Post: Would you travel 7,531 miles to attend a Real Estate Happy Hour in Korea?

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Great trip!!

And yes I would cause Seoul is a freaking awesome city

?? ?? ????. ;) I may be working there in 2016 so see you guys on the flipside.

Post: Would you travel 7,531 miles to attend a Real Estate Happy Hour in Korea?

Andrey Y.Posted
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Great trip!!

And yes I would cause Seoul is a freaking awesome city

?? ?? ????. ;) I may be working there in 2016 so see you guys on the flipside.

Post: Uneccessary frugality?

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Great points everyone. I think most people would rather live on $50k/year for 40 years until they are 60.. then live on $150k/year thereafter (gross oversimplification). I would prefer the reverse. Maybe I think weird. Or maybe it will change if/when I have kids.

Post: When making all cash offers.. Analysis

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I had a quick question that I hope one of the veterans (or anyone with the knowledge) could elucidate for me.

When making an all cash offer, how do you analyze Total ROI and CoC ROI? Or is there another metric you use? If I put down 20% on a place, lets say it's CoC ROI is 10% self-manage and 5% with property management (10% rental income). How about if the offer is all cash.

Post: Which financing would you rather choose?

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@Joe V

It wouldn't be a lien. Just a loan from my dad, knowing a cash offer would be stronger and I dont want to tie that much of my assests in a single investment.

@Daniel Francis

How do you mean depending on how well I like the family member? I would still pay back the same family member or Joe Schmo down the street ;)

Post: Which financing would you rather choose?

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If you needed to finance $100,000 for an investment, which would you choose:

a) A conventional loan at 4.25-4.50% for 30 years

b) A loan from a family member for 0% interest, but have to pay $10,000-$15,000 back per year.

Now, it seems great to have a 0% interest loan, but do the numbers make sense? if rental income is $1500 or so per month, after expenses, it make actually be a negative cash flow. In the conventional loan, it would cash flow positive ~$400.

Hmm.. decisions.