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Post: Learn Creative Financing to Win! The Home Selling Season is Now!

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Post: Seller financing using agreement of sale or land contract

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Dont do a land contract in PA.
Do a note and mortgage.
Buy Sub2 existing financing plus single payment note.
If he is not motivated for terms, look for .7 of appraisal, which most will not do.
Why does he want to sell?
You may also do a lease purchase sandwich, but you need cash reserves to evict and remarket.
Post: Understanding Seller Financing and Amortization

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Seller Financing 101 - When Buying or Controlling
A. Not free and clear - If there is existing financing, you can
- buy-control on a wrap, sub2, lease with option, lease purchase, TIC agreement, land contract
- sub2 can have a note (promissory note)
- there is a due on sale clause issue, loan could be called, if payment is made and insurance is kept in force, DOS usually not an issue, many times property trusts are used.
B. Is free and clear of mortgages - If there is NO existing financing, you can
private first mortgage, installment sale contract, lease purchase, lease option, TIC agreement, etc.
- No DOS clause because there is no existing financing
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Seller Financing 101 - When Selling
Understand Dodd Frank - If Selling to Owner Occupant, Use a RMLO or Registered Mortgage Loan Originator. The Ability to Repay Rules from Dodd Frank must be adhered to or penalty is severe to owner-seller.
To avoid Dodd Frank (not legal advice)
1. Sell on a lease and a ROFR (right of first refusal)
2. Sell on a Lease plus Option, use separate documents, no rent credits, no performance tied to either document.
3. Sell on a lease and Contract for Option to Purchase.
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Note: When dealing with Investor to Investor, there is no Dodd Frank, as long as Purchaser is not living in it, and Purchaser is doing a straight rental as an exit strategy.
Post: Wholesaling Business Startup Costs

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Read everything on oncarrot, webuyhouses, yellowletters, marketlikeawholesaler,
Consider a live answering service like PatLive, voicemail is useless.
Learn how to talk to home sellers on the phone.
Get a "I buy houses, any condition" business card at vistaprint.
Post: Lease Options and Reverse Mortgages - My brain hurts

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Originally posted by @Kellum Lewis:
Hi folks. I could really use some advice from more experienced investors. I have a property under contract in Alabama (I'm in Southern California), another strong lead in Alabama and another strong lead locally. All three are slightly different but are complex and I'm not sure if I can make them good deals or not. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
First, my current business model is as a wholesaler. I eventually want to get into rehabbing and buying-and-holding but I'm just getting my feet wet. Still, I don't want to pass up these opportunities if I can make them into a good deals.
#1 - The first property in AL is a 3/2 built in 1994. I have this one under contract currently The seller owes the lender $40K. The house needs about $12K in repairs to make it livable, about $20 for updating. Since it's in a somewhat rural location, even though it's just 3 miles from Columbus, GA, a mid-sized city, comps are difficult -- all over the place from $20K to $210K for similar properties. I've gotten 3 comps from a local realtor who reiterated the difficulty of getting accurate comps in the area. Tax assessment is $70K. I'm hoping ARV would be $80-90K based on sf of recently sold properties within the last 2 years.
I began marketing the property at $53K and have gotten a couple of looks but no strong interest. I'm wondering if it would be wise to give the homeowner what he needs to move on ($6K), take over the deed and mortgage (the lender is willing), get a hard money loan, do the rehab ($20K) and sell the property (hopefully for $80-90K). I'm worried there's no market and I'll be stuck with a house payment on a vacant property. I'm not sure yet if the lender will make me qualify for a new loan or take over the existing. If I take it over, the monthly payment is just under $600. I originally wanted to simply take over the deed and leave the loan in the owner's name but the owner ran this all by his lender without checking with me first. Thoughts???
#2 - While marketing this property, I was contacted by someone looking to purchase a place in AL but needs seller financing due to his poor credit. He now has a good job and wants to get back on his feel. He can afford a down payment of $5000-5500 and a monthly payment of $600. He looked at the above property but felt it was not as good a deal as another off-market property he found. This one is a 3/2 on 7 acres. The owner is elderly, now in a nursing home and the granddaughter is managing the sale. She thinks the property is worth $30-40K as is (again, difficult area to comp), tax assessment is $60K. She's adding up the repairs needed (just under $10K) in an effort to REDUCE the sale price in order to justify a smaller, quicker sale in case her grandmother needs to qualify for Medicaid.
The gentleman who contacted me wants to buy this property with seller financing. I'm contemplating getting a hard money loan to buy the property, give the man who contacted me a lease option and then either refi and hold it, have the new buyer get a loan in his name once he can qualify, or selling the property to a buy-and-hold investor with a tenant/lease option in place. I'm not sure if an investor would be interested in this scenario. I'm also having trouble figuring out the numbers on this and I don't understand the ins and outs of lease options very well. I'm tempted to walk away, partly because this isn't my business model yet, but I'm also open to trying to understand and making something like this work if I can.
#3 - Last, a So-Cal homeowner recently inherited her parents' place. She says it's worth around $400K (I haven't verified this yet) and there's a reverse mortgage on it of $280K. She'd like to stay in the home (she currently lives there) and wants to lease it until she can get enough money together to buy it back -- another lease option. I'd be in a similar situation as #2 above. Would buy-and-hold investors be interested in purchasing a property with a lease option tenant in place? I could really use some help figuring out the numbers and what works on these properties from someone who's more familiar with these types of situations. Any help is appreciated. (And thanks for reading this incredibly long post.)
Kellum Lewis
Hi Kellum,
You are investing out of state with out market knowledge of the area. Hire a local broker for Intel.
Seller financing is not for bad credit borrowers.
Look into a lease and ROFR instead of lease and option.
Buy and hold investors want desirable areas and responsible long term tenants. Get them that.
Post: Selling on Contract - Why would you do that?

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sub2 = subject to existing financing
land contract - contract for deed - put some down, have some kind of ownership, seller holds deed until cfd buyer gets new loan
note plus deed or not plus dot deed of trust = seller financing, usually free and clear
TIC = tenants in common agreement - you share ownership
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Post: Buying a property with a Life Estate

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A remainder in property law of the United Kingdom and the United States is a future interest given to a person (who is referred to as the transferee or remainderman) that is capable of becoming possessory upon the natural end of a prior estate created by the same instrument. Thus, the prior estate must be one that is capable of ending naturally, for example upon the expiration of a term of years or the death of a life tenant. A future interest following a fee simple absolute cannot be a remainder because of the preceding infinite duration.
For example, a person, D, gives ("conveys") a piece of real property called Blackacre “to A for life, and then to B and her heirs.” A receives a life estate in Blackacre and B holds a remainder, which can become possessory when the prior estate naturally terminates (A’s death). However, B cannot claim the property until A's death.
There are two types of remainders in property law, vested and contingent. A vested remainder is held by a specific person without any conditions precedent; a contingent remainder is one for which the holder has not been identified, or for which a condition precedent must be satisfied.
@Rick H. how are you mate?
Post: Owner finance vs Lease option

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Buying on Owner Financing - Installment Sale is much better than Lease Purchase, with rights to sublease.
Get a 30 year amoritization schedule.
Tell sellers you are not living in it and Dodd Frank does not apply.
It may be a great buy and hold instead of lease purchase exit.
Can you guarantee the payment to the OWNER if the tenant you lease purchase to does not pay?
Have 3 months payments in reserves.
Best wishes,
Brian
Post: Owner finance vs Lease option

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Hi Maggie
you're in Maryland and you need good legal docs in Maryland. There's lots of attorneys that sue everybody every day.
If it's in an AB area meaning good area versus CD area landlord in your area that makes a difference.
A B areas where people want to live in if it's in an AB area meaning good area versus CD area where it's mostly landlording blue collar or Secction 8 area that makes a difference.
A B areas were people want to live and buy.
If there's existing financing on the property versus free and clear you have different tools
If there's existing financing and there's little equity you would use a subject to, lease option - lease purchase or wraparound mortgage to buy or control.
If there's existing financing and there's little equity you would use a subject to, lease option - lease purchase, or wraparound mortgage to buy or to control .
If there's existing financing and a moderate amount of equity say 50% of value, you can take over their payments and give them a single payment note in the future. This is called sub to and a note. You could also help the seller arrange for a new first mortgage at 80% of value if they have the credit to refinance and then you take over those payments.
it's important to understand that you need the right documentation for subject to and for wraparound mortgage purchases because there is a due on sale clause issue.
If it's Free and clear you can offer to buy on installment sale which is a payment over time, the IRS allows residential sellers to sell on installment sale.
I hope this framework as hell to has helped you. You can search the site on any of these terms with my name Brian Gibbons, for many years I've written about these subjects.
Post: Selling on Contract

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I agree
don't sell on land contract - contract for deed
Sell on lease with option or lease purchase or lease w ROFR or lease and contract for option