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All Forum Posts by: Sam Booth

Sam Booth has started 44 posts and replied 226 times.

Post: Is this a good deal?

Sam BoothPosted
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Quote from @Matthew Crivelli:

@Sam Booth

If the property is being bought for 145k and needs 45k in rehab this is not a good deal. The purchase price is too high. What happens if you get into the house and the rehab needed is larger than you originally anticipated? There is zero profit in the deal from an equity perspective.  

On the rental side, say you take a loan on 150k (75% LTV) at 7.5% rate. Let's say your taxes are 2k per year and insurance is 1k per year.

Your PITI Payment would be $1,298.82 per month. Then let's add the 10% Property management fee. PITI + PM Fee = $1,458.82 PER month 

You actually only cash flow $141.18 per month and that's IF your escrow is only 3k annually. 

All and All - NOT A GOOD DEAL.

They PITI is $1000 since the insurance and taxes are low in Alabama. I have also seen the inside of the property and confident in the repair costs. I have done this before. Does it sound better now?

Post: Is this a good deal?

Sam BoothPosted
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I am in escrow on a foreclosure that fixed up would be about a 200K property. I can get it for about 145K but it needs a few things as its a 50 year old home in a great location. This isn't my first rental, but I want to run these numbers by people to see if it makes sense to everyone else. 

Rent would be $1600. (Property manager takes 10%)

Rehab would be:

45K for new floors, paint, light fixtures, appliances, some plumbing and miscellaneous (one new window, etc) plus new HVAC and ROOF. I usually do some of the work myself such as demo and painting and installing appliances and basic wood work and trim. 

9K Closing costs (includes a right of redemption bond and 1 point to lower interest rate to about 7%) with payments around $1000. 

By the time I pay the property manager 10% there's about 400+ cash flow a month, not counting for vacancies or major cap ex (which would be taken care of initially with new roof, hvac, and water heater, flooring, etc). If I refi then I should be able to get about 75% of the value back out and walk away with around 41K minus fees and maybe lower interest rate. 

Does this all sound good?

Thanks so much!

Quote from @Alecia Loveless:

@Sam Booth www.MySmartMove.com for credit check and background check. It’s about $42 charged right to the applicant. I generally try to weed it down to one final contestant and their spouse if applicable and then run the credit/background checks. If they fail I move to the second choice etc etc.

I personally dont charge application fees and then run tons of background checks. I feel people have enough expenses today so I try to minimize costs for them.

I pick the first qualified applicant(s) and do the checks and thus avoid discrimination issues.

Thank you! Much appreciated 

Thanks everyone! Good tips. To be clear it's a more local property I am thinking about managing. 

Hi all!

I currently use a property manager for out of state rentals. Can you recommend some things to so when vetting a local self managed tenant? How do you run a credit check? Call previous landlord of prospective tenant? Call references and prospects job? Anything you can help is appreciated!

Thanks so much!

Quote from @Jake Andronico:
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Quote from @Daniel Davis:

Hey Josh, I've got a 3 SFRs in the Reno market that cashflow $700 - $1000 a month. The $325,000 price range is a bit low for that market but if you are ok with putting in some renovation work, it could be possible. If you are ok with buying something on the Sparks side (894236/89512), which is an adjoining municipality just East of Reno, I think you could find something that wouldn't take too much work. In Reno proper will be tough to find a property with decent ROI in that price range.

I have lived here and been investing here for the last 5 years. I would love to connect and share my contacts with you.  I know a fantastic, investor focused realtor who invests out her herself who can put together some pro formas for you.  Happy to connect and discuss the market.  

-Daniel 

Hi Daniel,
I saw your post here and was wondering if you might be able to help. I am looking in the greater Reno area for a single family home or duplex to buy renovate and rent. Any suggestions on the area? Is Sparks a good rental market, less expensive then midtown and some of the other areas? Looking at sub 400K, maybe off market or wholesale.
Sam, if you're looking to compare rent comps we've been scraping them from various sources and have compiled them (over 14,000) into a free map for most of Northern Nevada: 

https://www.addressincome.com/reno-rental-comps-map-level-up...

Hope that helps! 
Cool thanks! 
Quote from @Daniel Davis:

Hey Josh, I've got a 3 SFRs in the Reno market that cashflow $700 - $1000 a month. The $325,000 price range is a bit low for that market but if you are ok with putting in some renovation work, it could be possible. If you are ok with buying something on the Sparks side (894236/89512), which is an adjoining municipality just East of Reno, I think you could find something that wouldn't take too much work. In Reno proper will be tough to find a property with decent ROI in that price range.

I have lived here and been investing here for the last 5 years. I would love to connect and share my contacts with you.  I know a fantastic, investor focused realtor who invests out her herself who can put together some pro formas for you.  Happy to connect and discuss the market.  

-Daniel 

Hi Daniel,
I saw your post here and was wondering if you might be able to help. I am looking in the greater Reno area for a single family home or duplex to buy renovate and rent. Any suggestions on the area? Is Sparks a good rental market, less expensive then midtown and some of the other areas? Looking at sub 400K, maybe off market or wholesale.

Post: LLC to get funding for fixers

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Quote from @Mike Klarman:

The reason most lenders require the LLC is because these secondary mortgages/Hard Money loans are Business to Business loans not Business to person which would entail lots more regulations and docs.

That makes sense, Thanks for the info!

Post: LLC to get funding for fixers

Sam BoothPosted
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Quote from @Andrew Postell:

@Sam Booth An attorney isn't a CPA.  A lender isn't a CPA either.  So, no matter what I say...or anybody else...check with a CPA.  When you check, you'll see.

Likewise, an S Corp is COMPLETELY different than a single member LLC. It's also kind of hard to say what the "right" structure is for these sorts of things especially when we start out. But if we want one just for loan purposes that's usually not too expensive. Creating a single member LLC is usually handled by your local state office and isn't too difficult to learn how to do it on your own. I can't tell what state you are in but for most states we go to the "Secretary of State" office. Play a little dumb and they are usually ok with helping you where to go. They won't give you legal advice...but just to create a LLC they will tell you what's needed and what forms to give.

Hope all of that makes sense.  Thanks!

Leave it to the attorneys and CPAs to duel out ;)

Appreciate the info. I ll probably go for a single member LLC in the state I want to invest in. Thanks again

Post: LLC to get funding for fixers

Sam BoothPosted
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Quote from @Andrew Postell:

@Sam Booth to address the capital gains thing - that description is ABSOLUTELY incorrect. Transferring from your personal name to an LLC, from a LLC to another LLC...nothing of that triggers capital gains if you own these entities. I'm not sure who told you that...let's just say they were "mistaken" and leave it at that. We do these types of transfers all the time. Completely safe.

I want to address something else here too - if any lender is saying you have to face seasoning...then don't work with them.  Conventional or other wise.  I mean, you can work with whomever you want to work with of course but you don't have to face seasoning with any loan type as long as everything is structured correctly.  Sometimes people may not know how to structure things...so make sure you are working with people with experience and knowledge in this space.  How do you know what people are knowledgeable?  It's the same answer with finding renovation lenders that are ok with giving you a loan in your personal name - ask other real estate investors in your market who they use.  Read this post HERE on how to find investor friendly lenders.

Reach out with any questions.  Thanks!

Funny thing is an attorney told me about the capital gains thing. Someone on the podcast says never put real estate in an S Corp, and then other people like D Ramsey say put it in LLCs. I am only interested in an entity for the purpose of getting fix and flip Funding (and holding).