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All Forum Posts by: Sam Grooms

Sam Grooms has started 13 posts and replied 557 times.

Post: How much income should you make per door?

Sam GroomsPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 583
  • Votes 919

Depends on what your investment per door is (you should underwrite to a return, not per door income). 

Post: Found an off market deal. Need help

Sam GroomsPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 583
  • Votes 919

Have you been talking with the owner? That post looks like it's a wholesaler, in which case the $150K is probably net to the seller and wholesaler. If you involve your agent, you're likely paying their commission on top of the $150k.

Post: How did you get to where you are today ?

Sam GroomsPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 583
  • Votes 919
Originally posted by @Joe Frank:

@Sam Grooms

Can you give the names of the books?

I am 60 years old and I am considering buying multiple units for my retirement income. I have a lot to learn . Thank you

 Yes, they're:

The Complete Guide to Buying and Selling Apartment Buildings, by Steve Berges

Multifamily Millions, by Dave Lindahl

Post: How did you get to where you are today ?

Sam GroomsPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 583
  • Votes 919
Originally posted by @Stan Thampi:

@Sam Grooms what books do you recommend? Thanks

The Complete Guide to Buying and Selling Apartment Buildings, by Steve Berges

Multifamily Millions, by Dave Lindahl

Post: finding comps for four plex

Sam GroomsPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 583
  • Votes 919

Not even sold/closed comps? 

Post: Structuring a real estate syndication

Sam GroomsPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 583
  • Votes 919

I didn't realize you were considering a debt syndication (paying interest), instead of equity. 3% asset management fee will be hard for investors to accept. Maybe you can get away with that with close friends and family, but once you branch out and try to raise money from more sophisticated investors, they might have an issue with that. 

If you're set on not getting reimbursed, which is the route most sponsors go, I would include your up front costs as part of the sponsor's (equity) contribution. You'll be invested in the deal, and the "interest" on those expenses will just go to you. 

Post: Large Multi Unit Formula's

Sam GroomsPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 583
  • Votes 919

Maybe @Ben Leybovich can weigh in, since he owns property in Ohio. What are your thoughts on wall heating units and window ACs, specifically in the Midwest? Those don't work well out here, but perhaps its different in other markets.  

Regarding DSCR, make sure you're calculating this correctly. It's not as simple as T12 or Pro Forma NOI. It'll likely be:

  • T3 Net Rental Income
  • T12 Other Income
  • Pro Forma Insurance
  • Pro Forma Payroll
  • Pro Forma Property Taxes
  • T12 Other Operating Expenses

In regards to property taxes, you don't need to automatically adjust them to 80-90% of your purchase price. It depends on your area. That's the rule for Texas, where they aggressively chase the sale. Other markets, like Phoenix, have laws that prevent that, and you can safely/conservatively underwrite a 5% increase per year during your hold, since that's the statutory limit. 

This website is fairly comprehensive regarding multifamily loan options:

https://www.multifamily.loans/