All Forum Posts by: Sam Levin
Sam Levin has started 19 posts and replied 103 times.
Post: Brand New 3-bed View Townhome in Herriman, UT

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Investment Info:
Townhouse buy & hold investment.
Purchase price: $472,000
Represented an investor client on purchase of brand new townhome with breath-taking view of Salt Lake valley (3 beds 2.5 baths, 2-car garage, 2,400 sq ft). We also manage this property for him now. This townhome is renting for $2,350/mo.

Post: Brand New 3-bed Condo in Lehi, UT

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Post: Brand New SFR in Bluffdale, UT

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Post: Pre-construction 18-plex Apartment Building

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Thank you @Dmitriy Fomichenko !
Post: Pre-construction 18-plex Apartment Building

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Post: Salem Brand New 8-plex Townhomes

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Post: Newbie out of state investor looking into Utah for Multi-Fam

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Hi Armando. We've got brand new fourplexes in Salem (South of Provo) that are priced at a 4 cap and have many great features, including rooftop decks, cathedral ceilings, impeccable styling, many included upgrades, etc. Please let me know if you want to learn more about them. -Sam
Post: How do you analyze a property?

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Quote from @Bob Willis:
Quote from @Sam Levin:
I (almost) always buy new build directly from a production home builder, so it's always brand new um, everything, and a brand new neighborhood. This gets me a builder's warranty, many years of trouble-free operation, and most importantly high-end responsible tenants. While you can surely hit better cap rates and cash flows in a less desirable neighborhood, it's not worth the problematic tenants and repairs/renovations which all take time, energy, and money out of your pocket.
Do you rent these at LTR, or STR (i am guessing LTR)? I have never even thought or considered new build. Can you share your strategy?
Long-term only. Until recently a person could buy a new build 4 BR townhome here with 20% down and get immediate cash flow, albeit by a thin margin. Now you need more cash down to be in the black, but who really cares about cash flow when it's the other stuff that makes you wealthy. The money they make at the same time through debt buy down, appreciation, and tax deferment into the property are the real win. Unless your working in a depressed market rents keep going up so you end up with decent cash flow after a few years. There's less/no possibility of getting rich quickly (although these last two years even stable plays like this have crushed it on appreciation) but you are getting there safely, easily, sanely, and reliably. You also never have to get your hands/clothes/car/life/wallet dirty with renovation projects.
Right up front, you have the civility and simplicity and predictable(ish) closing timing that comes with buying from a production builder, rather than trying to play musical chairs with other investors and the resale market. You get the big ticket item to depreciate, incl full depreciation of all of the new appliances etc in yr 1 assuming you know how a 'cost segregation study' is used. If not, you should google it. You get a year of full builder warranty on everything. The toilet is running? Call the warranty department, give them the tenant's contact info for access and forget about it. Most anything that will go wrong, if anything, on a brand new townhouse from a reputable builder will go at the start so you almost always get 5+ yrs of no maintenance hassles. You also get the intangible but very real advantage of dealing with tenants who can afford to be in the shiny new neighborhoods. I've managed a bunch of both types of units. Just from a prop mgt perspective alone, it's worth it to go with the premium new build.
Post: How do you analyze a property?

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- Provo, UT
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I (almost) always buy new build directly from a production home builder, so it's always brand new um, everything, and a brand new neighborhood. This gets me a builder's warranty, many years of trouble-free operation, and most importantly high-end responsible tenants. While you can surely hit better cap rates and cash flows in a less desirable neighborhood, it's not worth the problematic tenants and repairs/renovations which all take time, energy, and money out of your pocket.
Post: Trust a tenant to make repairs?

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There's always that chance that it could work out well, but I'd say 9 times out of 10 you're going to have problems with that. Best to keep your tenants and your repair team separate.