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All Forum Posts by: Scott Price

Scott Price has started 17 posts and replied 117 times.

Post: Young, but ambitious

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

@Zachary Cuneo, welcome to BP and house hacking!

I live south of you on Whidbey Island, and own a number of apartments + office/retail buildings in the area.  I may be getting together with some other local investors soon, and if so I'll extend the invitation to you as well.

Best Regards,

Scott Price

Post: Mixed Use Property Financing Help Needed!

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

Hi @Elizabeth Colegrove, yes agreed with @Luc Boironregarding the association of commercial property to commercial loan, in general.  An alternative may be a portfolio lender, but then it somewhat becomes "semantics" regarding what kind of loan it is and the flexibility generally comes with a slightly higher interest rate and/or down payment, etc.

What is it that you are trying to achieve by getting a residential loan instead of commercial loan in this case?  Lower interest rate, lower down payment, something else?

Best Regards,

Scott

Post: Best markets to buy multifamily in 2016: A round-table discussion

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

Hi @Jay Hinrichs, regarding Wenatchee, Chelan, and Leavenworth: All can be good markets for someone looking to align with tourism and destination-based economics, or looking for a growing small town vibe.

I don't invest in those markets since they don't meet a few of my criteria. Chelan and Leavenworth needs a more diversified economy to weather economic cycles (tourism of course gets hit harder in discretionary income, as compared to groceries :-) ).  They both have full time populations of only a few thousand people (which makes that type of market more illiquid in downturns when the non-locals don't care anymore).  They can be great for someone who wants to get the higher returns of vacation rentals. I personally don't invest in those types of properties since they are management intensive due to the ongoing demands of turnover, marketing, and renter interaction. My model is more around creating a long term investment and not creating a long term high maintenance business/job for someone, but tourist places work well for others. Those locations can also create good demand for rental demographic workers, though there can be a seasonality issue which can make keeping regular apartments full a bit more difficult in the off seasons or between transient populations.

Wenatchee has more diversity to its economy.  Though it has a heavy reliance on agriculture, people need to eat and it does have a number of other small industries and facilities within its area.  It is a bit below my preferred population minimums (Wenatchee has about 33,000 people), even though I own properties in towns even smaller than that.  More importantly in general, it has been experiencing some steady population growth for a while now.  So, of the three towns, Wenatchee would be my pick.  But if you'd like a place to have tax deductible trips to check on your investment property, go with Leavenworth or Chelan depending upon your favorite outdoor activity preferences.  :-)

Scott

Post: Can anyone recommend EZR Management in Memphis for apartments?

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

Hi @Jay Hinrichs, thanks for the concern.  I own a number of properties not local to me, though all are currently spread across Washington state.  All are remotely managed.  I have set up people and systems to not need to visit them frequently.

For this particular property, I am in due diligence at the moment.  It is a C property in a B neighborhood that borders a C neighborhood which is gentrifying.  I own similar scenarios now elsewhere.

Best Regards,

Scott

Post: Can anyone recommend EZR Management in Memphis for apartments?

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

Hi @Douglas Skipworth, thanks for the response.  The property currently has an onsite manager.  We will be looking at several options in terms of how to best manage the property, including a professional firm nearby and a firm nearby + onsite manager.

Best Regards,

Scott

Post: Can anyone recommend EZR Management in Memphis for apartments?

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

I'm looking for a Memphis property management firm with experience handling a 40 unit apartment complex, that has great processes in place, and is professional. Does anyone have experience with EZR Management?  And/or can you recommend another firm?

Scott

Post: Thanks for having me

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

Welcome, fellow Whidbey Islander!  :-)

Best Regards,

Scott

Post: Best markets to buy multifamily in 2016: A round-table discussion

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

Thanks for reaching out on this interesting forum thread, @Troy Fisher.

I agree with your comments about cashflow opportunities are almost entirely gone from the Seattle metro at this time, and any decent returns are on the outskirts or beyond.  Tacoma is an interesting market because of its proximity and growth potential, yet it has some stigma, uncertainty, and spotty neighborhoods in the minds of Seattlites, and that helps keep its cap rates up in comparison.  Spokane, as you mentioned, also has some interesting momentum to it due to increasing in-migration and gradually diversifying economic base.  Other eastern Washington strongholds for value and cash flow can be Tri-Cities and Yakima.

On the western side of the state, there are strong dynamics going on in several I-5 corridor communities north of Seattle (such as Bellingham and pockets of Mount Vernon). Better cash flow can be found with good properties in several south I-5 communities since they have some moderately declining populations and less diversified economies, and therefore demand a higher risk adjusted return. Olympia is a strong market for rentals, but the market has been getting picked over and the cap rates / COC is generally low. There are a few other small cities of note, such as Port Angeles, which is enjoying very high residential occupancy and demand, though the office and retail market there has been on a slower lagging growth curve.

The main problem I am seeing in all of these markets is consistent in many other states as well: There is a lot of capital chasing fewer and fewer deals. So the primary markets are saturated, and investors there are basically parking money with minimal immediate COC return. To get return and find something that at least moderately cash flows, other investors are going into markets they never knew about: first to secondary markets and now to these tertiary markets. This has compressed the cap rates even "out in the sticks", and its a great time to be a seller in these slow but steady outlier cashflow communities.

Many properties are now selling with current financing such that the COC return actually becomes less than the cap rate for a property, which defeats the arbitrage advantages of financed leverage. The investors are also taking on a lot of market risk: prices are high, eventually there will be a down cycle again, and the first buyer pools to dry up tend to be in the tertiary markets (especially with the current urbanization trend among millenials). If there is a local economic shock, or if interest rates ever increase, or if the general US economy and investor sentiment declines, then the cap rates will go back up and the value of their properties will drop quite a bit.

So, the moral of the story is to investigate these interesting outer edge markets, but make sure you know what you are doing and get a proportionately higher risk-adjusted return.  I'm personally ready and eager to buy new multi-family/commercial properties as always, but by not lowering my investment criteria I'm needing to be a lot more patient now as compared to a few years ago.

Scott

Post: Lender taking annual personal credit reports on commercial loan!

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

@Jonathan J. Miller, yes agreed. And most only do a hard pull at time of initial application, but not afterwards for annual check-ups. They are improperly sending a message to the world that I am applying for new credit in my personal loan, none of which applies to this commercial loan through a LLC that is not on my personal credit report...

Scott

Post: Lender taking annual personal credit reports on commercial loan!

Scott PricePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 52

@Joel Owens, thanks for the inputs.  Agreed on all points, though to clarify: the issue here is not the personal guarantee.  It is the hard credit pull on our personal credit reports/scores every year.  The industry norm is for that to be done at time of application.

Yes, good point on contesting the hard pull.  I may end up doing the hard pull, especially since it was not authorized and doesn't serve a good purpose.  They should have done a soft pull.

Thanks,

Scott