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All Forum Posts by: Shane H.

Shane H. has started 18 posts and replied 169 times.

Post: How much to charge for monthly pet rent?

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93

I charge a $250 pet deposit and $25 "pet rent" per pet per month. If they have 2 pets then I'll do $400 and $40 and if it's more than that i usually find a more qualified applicant.

Post: Rental properties when to sell

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93
Originally posted by @James Free:

@Shane H. I've heard that rule of thumb before, but the problem is the transaction costs. Selling is very expensive, and buying is expensive too. If I own a property and could buy an identical one next door for 5% less, selling mine and buying that one would be a losing proposition.

 Excellent point James! Though just like any rule of thumb, it isn't absolute. Which is why I say to consider selling. It makes for a great yard stick but only after crunching the numbers can you know for sure whether it's the right choice for your situation.

Post: Rental properties when to sell

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93

I always suggest looking at your properties from the perspective of "would I buy this property". For example, if you purchased a property for $120k, and it rents for $1500 and after expenses is cash flowing excellently then that's great. Then let's say fast forward and it's now worth $280k but rent has only gone up to $1600. Would you buy that property for the $280k that you could sell it for? If the answer is no, then you SHOULD look at selling. 

I'm not sure if i explained that correctly, so to summarize: If you would buy your property back for the price you could sell it for because it would be a good investment at that price, then you shouldn't sell. If you would pass on your property and wouldn't purchase it for whatever the market rate is then you should consider selling it.

Basically i'm suggesting analyze it as a potential deal to decide if the amount it is worth is better left in your portfolio or if it's better to sell and use that money to get a greater ROI on a different property.

Post: Should I pay off my property

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93

@Joe Villeneuve I couldn't agree more, which is why i want to reduce my expenses as much as possible. However, if I have a loan at 5% but am making 10% on those borrowed dollars then i wouldn't want to pay that down. But if that same loan is at 20% and I'm still only making 10% on it then I want to pay that down. Even if my "tenant is paying that expense for me" because at the end of the day, i would increase my income by decreasing my expenses.

Post: Should I pay off my property

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @Shane H.:
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:

Interest rates would matter if you were the one paying the interest...which on a positive CF property, you are not paying...your tenant is.  Any money you pay instead of your tenant, for the same thing, helps nobody but the bank.

Also, your money dies when it transfers from your bank account (liquid) to under the floorboards of the property (stationary).  It's the same money...just dressed in different clothes.

When your money is liquid, it has a chance to compound itself in future properties.  Buried in the floorboards, it gains nothing...yes, nothing.  Before someone says "appreciation", remember that the appreciation is based on the value of the property...not the equity.  The value of the property is the same, regardless how much equity you have in that property.

I'd have to disagree with you a bit on this Joe. If that's the case, then you could make the same argument about any debt... "it's not me paying the interest on my auto loan, my job is" or a business could make the same argument "it isn't my business paying our credit card interest, our customers are".

Tenants do not pay off our mortgages, we do. Once my tenants pay rent, that is my (my business's) money and then I will be using my (my business's) money to pay that interest. 

Not that i'm advocating one should pay off their low interest mortgage, i'm saying that interest rates DO matter and are very important regardless of whether cashflow is positive or not.

 No, Job income and rental income are not in the same ballpark.  Job income is Active Income meaning you have to work for it.  Rental income is Passive income, meaning your money works for it.  They are not the same at all.

If you want to compare Job Income to anything, compare it to the Job Income of the Tenant.  That's the same thing.  The Tenant then pays Rent to you, generating Positive CF, and in the process pays all the expenses, including the loans, and then lets you have the unused portion of the rent...the positive CF.

My point of difference is not comparing the two types of income, it's the fact that it's ALL income. And more importantly, I get to keep/use whatever income is left after expenses. Interest is an expense, regardless of how you allocate it or who you allocate it to. The tenants payment to me is not variable based on what interest I pay on any of my loans. So if i am paying a 20% interest on something, it doesn't mean i want to keep that loan just because my passive income is enough to cover it. It would be beneficial for me to pay off a 20% interest loan so that I do not have that expense and can therefore keep more income.

I understand your point, that if someone has a 5% fixed rate 30 year mortgage, then yes carry that full term and use your money elsewhere. But your argument behind that point is where I disagree as it becomes less and less true the higher the interest rate is on whatever loan you apply that argument to.

Post: Should I pay off my property

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:

Interest rates would matter if you were the one paying the interest...which on a positive CF property, you are not paying...your tenant is.  Any money you pay instead of your tenant, for the same thing, helps nobody but the bank.

Also, your money dies when it transfers from your bank account (liquid) to under the floorboards of the property (stationary).  It's the same money...just dressed in different clothes.

When your money is liquid, it has a chance to compound itself in future properties.  Buried in the floorboards, it gains nothing...yes, nothing.  Before someone says "appreciation", remember that the appreciation is based on the value of the property...not the equity.  The value of the property is the same, regardless how much equity you have in that property.

I'd have to disagree with you a bit on this Joe. If that's the case, then you could make the same argument about any debt... "it's not me paying the interest on my auto loan, my job is" or a business could make the same argument "it isn't my business paying our credit card interest, our customers are".

Tenants do not pay off our mortgages, we do. Once my tenants pay rent, that is my (my business's) money and then I will be using my (my business's) money to pay that interest. 

Not that i'm advocating one should pay off their low interest mortgage, i'm saying that interest rates DO matter and are very important regardless of whether cashflow is positive or not.

Post: Neighbors fence fell down, tenant wants me to fix it

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93

I've read similar posts on things like this such as if a landlord if responsible to fix the jets on a tub etc. And it seems the consensus from those is if you marketed/described the unit to have a functioning XYZ then it is your obligation to repair those "luxuries" when they fail.

That being said, i would definitely get a fence back up for the tenant. But i'd also try Thomas's suggestion and approach the neighbor about it. Offer to "chip in" since you receive benefit from it too. 

Post: Landlord withholding my security deposit

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93
Originally posted by @Brit Flaggen:

Here’s the update:

I reached out to a couple of lawyers, they all said that the judge won’t be so dismissive because she was only 3 days late with her security deposit letter. It’s only 3 days, it’s not a big deal. Most of the money I would win sounds like it’ll be paid to the lawyers after I win. So I’m not going to take this to court. I don’t want to waste time and money. But, I do feel as though I don’t owe her 86.44  I overpaid my first month’s rent of 1300. If that’s the case, she owes me 13.56. How do I explain that via text simply and assertively?

 You already have. "I do feel as though I don’t owe her 86.44 I overpaid my first month’s rent of 1300. If that’s the case, she owes me 13.56."

Post: How do you self-manage your rentals?

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93

Are there any RE agents in the area that you could pay to do showings and find renters? They may also have leads on a good maintenance person.

Post: Using Collection agencies to get back rent

Shane H.Posted
  • Investor
  • Spokane Valley, WA
  • Posts 175
  • Votes 93

@Nathan Gesner I have my first former tenant that I need to do this for. (mostly so they don't pull a fast one on a future landlord than anything else). Do i need to go through small claims to get the process started? Or do I start with finding a collection agency?