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All Forum Posts by: Steven Gesis

Steven Gesis has started 30 posts and replied 866 times.

Post: Purchasing 100+ MultiFamily Apartment Building - Needs Renovation

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Lee Ripma:

@Steven Gesis

USB outlets are cool and probably not much more expensive than a regular outlet, so go for it. I don't think anyone is expecting that nor will it sell the unit that much. I think you want to have things that "pop" when tenants walk in. To me this is nice flooring, nice clean walls, nice modern ceiling fans, nice countertops, lots of counterspace, gas stove, lots of storage, nice closets, in unit laundry (best) or free laundry (second best), nice bathroom with tile and storage. The more I think about it the more I think you really have 2 minutes to make the impression, wow, it would be so awesome to live here. You want to catch them in their emotional decision making state. I think that the amenities like pool, sauna, gym, shared working space, actually serve that purpose. I actually moved into a "luxury" apartment for all those reasons. I never used any of the amenities and moved out because the soundproofing was so bad. How many units is the one you are talking about? Ikea can be awesome for bathrooms and kitchens if you don't have wholesale modern stuff available to you. 

 122 units  - in this case  -  I agree with you it has to be a wow factor - 

Post: Purchasing 100+ MultiFamily Apartment Building - Needs Renovation

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Lee Ripma:

@Steven Gesis

I'm an RE investor in MO but a renter in CA. I've lived in a variety of rentals in CA I also renovate properties, so I'm always interested in the amenities/trims to include. One thing I will always put into future renovations is dishwashers. I also won't go for grantite countertops, but something in stone I will do, maybe quartz. Ikea has awesome countertops in stone and non-stone. In unit laundry is best. Second is free laundry in a common area. I think one of the most important things is sound blocking walls in between floors and shared walls. Also lots of outlets. I don't think amenities mater, I've lived in places with them and I didn't use them. Pools, hot tubs, gyms, saunas, I would not spring for those. 

Interesting discussion! 

 Lee, good feedback

Yes, I think outlets, but USB outlets is a good one -

I can but the idea that the large amenities like pools, hot tubs etc are limited usage by residents

I think a hard surface top maybe not granite is awesome - I really like the porcelain tops out in the market, I will look into Ikea (great suggestion) - did not know they had hard surface tops

Would love to the in-unit laundry just could not swing it here

This building has concrete slabs between floors so I think Im good here - not sure about soundproofing between walls here, I was in a unit and did not hear the neighbors - 

This building will have new stainless steel dishwashers

Post: Purchasing 100+ MultiFamily Apartment Building - Needs Renovation

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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Steve Kontos:

@Steven Gesis

Love it!  Now your getting me pumped.

 Awesome! Thats just how I roll - 

Post: Purchasing 100+ MultiFamily Apartment Building - Needs Renovation

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Steve Kontos:

@Steven Gesis

I would recommend seeing what the area commences because every area is different so you want to do some market research to help see what amenities are worth your wild.  Some of the amenities you listed (new kids playground, lobby, lake view) can add some value to your complex so I would focus on those BUT try to ask professionals who know the area well.

 Steve, thanks for the feedback, I am one that likes to go against the grain, I am not discounting area, but I believe if you make a nice unit available in any area, does not really matter where it is or location, you will capture a 100-200 people that want to live in a nicer setting for not much more than the average rent rate in the area - I think all areas should have some minimal access to nice living regardless of area - 

Post: Purchasing 100+ MultiFamily Apartment Building - Needs Renovation

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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Michael Forbes:

@Steven Gesis - The complex I lived in was right by an interstate and a mall which made it very convenient. I would have chosen a place that wasn't so convenient however if I could have had the amenities with a slight discount for the loss of the convenience. The living space was more important to me than the location. 

 Awesome feedback... thank you! These new units totally decked out with the amenities I defined are literally a stone's throw from highway access  (2 - Bedroom units will be $895 and 1 bedroom - $785) - we have some studios and jr. suites available also

Post: Purchasing 100+ MultiFamily Apartment Building - Needs Renovation

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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Michael Forbes:

Hi @Steven Gesis - When I rented a higher end place, I wanted:

-A view with outdoor space (patio, balcony, etc)

Done - this has a balcony with lakeviews

-Nice lobby and entrance - I could control the look of my home but not the common area so having this updated and clean meant a lot to me.

Good point - plan on making the lobby and entrance super nice 

-Secure parking/garages - In particular, I wanted at least one garage stall.

No Garage at this property, but I am also considering the property next door it is 88 units needs lots of help - but has a 2 level garage - figured if I got both I can offer residents the option at either property to use the garage they are literally next door to one another

-On-site (or even better - in unit) laundry

Will not be able to do the in-unit luandry (in this case it was space and cost prohobitive - but this ammenity was high on our list, it will have to be a common laundry on-site

 Thanks for the feedback - how about the location was that critical to you, or did the ammenity and price point outweigh your location choice? 

Post: Purchasing 100+ MultiFamily Apartment Building - Needs Renovation

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Jonathan Twombly:

@Steven Gesis If the property doesn't already have a pool, don't put one in.  Tenants almost never use them, and they add enormously to your insurance expense.  They are a drowning hazard and can draw in kids from the neighborhood.  They also add to water expense.  Not worth it in my view.

Dog run is better.  Super-cheap to put up, negligible effect on insurance, dog-lovers love them.

 Thanks for the feedback - this helps reinforce my thoughts with the pool area, we did tinker with this thought, I was coming up with a similar theory- also being in Cleveland, Ohio - our pool season is maximum 4-5 months, considering the proximity to the lake with this building, residents will have access to public beach nearby 

Post: Purchasing 100+ MultiFamily Apartment Building - Needs Renovation

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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So, here it is, I love SFR, I have A LOT of SFR, over the course of the last two years, have been dipping into the Multi-Family space and now graduating to 100+ units - still buying lots of SFR (I just cannot contain myself :) )

10 Reason(s) I love SFR:

  1. Higher Rents
  2. Less Turn-Over
  3. Can be more strategic with purchase location and type
  4. More of it available in the marketplace
  5. Like the idea of a single home, single transaction, single & quick exit plan 
  6. Financing Readily Available
  7. Management System and Controls in Place (internal function)
  8. Construction is streamlined with all standard products in ALL SFR units
  9. Tenant Responsible for Exterior & Utilities
  10. Simple, Simple, Simple and can be replicated easily/swiftly

As I have been trying my hand at Multi-Family, it is similar but not the same and many will argue you gain more efficiency with Multi-Family but, you equally gain more challenges:

  1. Larger Common Expenses: Cleaning, Exterior Maintenance, More Placement, Common Area Utility Cost
  2. Potentially higher turn-over (frequency of turnover)
  3. Same material buying power as lots of SFR (Construction side)
  4. In-Fighting amongst tenants (always a fun one)
  5. Larger Capital Exposure

Progressing into this next phase, after slowly moving from 2-unit, 4-unit, 8-unit, 12-unit, 21-Unit, 36-Unit, 40- Unit - now to 100+ Units, all had own challenges - but the goal has always been the same, take something that's old, undervalued, do an awesome renovation, raise rents and replace existing tenants with higher quality teantns willing to pay a small premium to live in an updated unit as opposed to your typical run of the mill apartment (existing tenants  have the option to upgrade to the new premium units or exit) -

My question for BP Community what amenities are important to you - adding the following, please feel free to contribute or comment:

  • USB Outlets in all rooms (including bathroom)
  • Tile Shower Surround
  • Hard Surface Counters
  • Stainless Steel Appliances
  • New Luxury Vinyl Tile Flooring
  • High-End Glossy European Style Kitchen Cabinets
  • Lake View (Unobstructed 270 degrees) 
  • Updated Elevator Cars 
  • Fancy Modern Lobby with Coffee Station and Dry Cleaner Kiosk (drop-off and pick-up)
  • New Kids playground
  • New Dedicated Dog Park (Real Dog Park)
  • SmartHome HUB (Powered by Amazon Alexa)
  • Electric Car Charging Station
  • Bike Station and In-Unit Bike Rack
  • Private and Secure Fenced in Parking
  • 8th Floor Rooftop Deck and Community Center featuring (Large Format TV's, Ping Pong, Billiards) - with Full Lake View
  • On-Site Coin Operated Laundry
  • .............

What would you be willing to a pay premium for?

  • Pool ? 
  • Clubhouse ?
  • Zen Park ? 
  • Dog/Cat Food Kick Plate integrated in kitchen cabinets

Open to all feedback and comments - this is a journey, courtesy of BP this journey is even more engaging - making the leap - lets see what happens :) 

Post: The RE Amazon Craze - Coming to Cleveland, Ohio

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Sam C.:

Part of an article that just came across my desk. 

"Retail and industrial sectors

2017 was a record year for retail, and not in a good way. Last year store closing announcements more than tripled, reaching about 7,000, said retail think tank Fung Global Retail and Technology. Bankruptcies have increased too, with over 600 reported in the retail sector in 2017. The hit list has included big guns like Sears, Kmart, J.C. Penney and Macy’s (store closures) and Toys R Us, Payless, The Limited and Hhgregg (bankruptcy).

And there’s more to come, warned Cushman & Wakefield. The commercial real estate firm said the number of U.S. store closings is expected to jump at least 33% in 2018, to more than 12,000, and forecast that another 25 major retailers could file for bankruptcy. Gap, Banana Republic, J. Crew and Teavana have already announced plans to close stores in 2018.

Walmart has already kicked off the year by shutting down 63 Sam’s Clubs stores – including those at 2425 E. Florence Blvd. in Casa Grande, Arizona; 3360 El Camino Ave. in Sacramento, California; and 5135 S. Dale Mabry Hwy. in Tampa, Florida – even as it attempted to control the news cycle by announcing employee bonuses and an increase in its hourly minimum wage." 

It’s no coincidence that some of the Sam’s Clubs stores belonging to one of Amazon’s biggest rivals will be converted to e-commerce distribution centers. This brings us to a key point about retail trends and their effect on commercial real estate: As e-commerce keeps growing, the retail sector’s need for commercial real estate isn’t disappearing, but rather is shifting as industrial real estate – namely, warehouses and distribution centers – play an ever-bigger role in the retail industry.

Indeed, commercial real estate industry observers like PricewaterhouseCoopers and the Urban Land Institute, which publish an annual report on commercial real estate trends, have singled out the industrial segment as the top-ranked property type for 2018 as well as the previous four years, while Colliers recently found the industrial sector far outperforms all other segments.

2018 - industrial is on my radar  :)

Post: NNN Lease can I be the landlord and tenent both?

Steven GesisPosted
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  • Miami, FL
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Originally posted by @Michael Huang:

Hi everyone, I would like to buy a property, build for NNN lease but run the tenent business the sametime. I don't know if someone here has done something like that. What are the pros and cons?

For example, if I have bought a piece of property. And I would like to own a Dunkin Donuts and maybe DQ as stand alone building. and build a strip center and own franchises on UPS store, Anytime Fitness and a smoothie store etc. 

This way I am NNN leasing myself. how is that possible?

I try to do this with around 10M cash.

 Yes of course you can do all this