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All Forum Posts by: Stan C.

Stan C. has started 21 posts and replied 96 times.

I called the lender that is asking for 20% down and she said it will be a NON-recourse loan. They are outside of Fannie and Freddie and thus are allowed to get less than 25% down on residential investment props. However, she said my loan will be sold to another bank after closing.  Should I be concerned about it?  Will the agreement specify that it's a non-recourse loan? If so, the new note owner can not change is to a recourse, am I right?  

In fact, not one but two major lenders are offering me 25% down non-recourse loans...

I'm looking for a lender who can offer a conventional loan on my first investment property (a duplex) for buy-and-hold in NC. A local lender offered what I think to be a recourse loan (I will verify it tomorrow) at: 

- 30 years fixed, 20% down, 5.5% rate, no points. Or 5% rate with $2,500 in points, or 4.375% with $5,000 in points.  As I understand it, this is a non Fannie Mae loan and thus - recourse. 

Another national lender offers a Fannie Mae non-recourse loan: 

- 30 years fixed, 25% down, 5.375% rate with $374 in points, or 5% with $1,571 in points. 

I was told by the second lender that Fannie Mae loans for multifamily investment properties start from 25% down. 

Is it worth paying extra 5% in downpayment and slightly higher rates for a non-recourse loan which guarantees them not going after my assets except the property as collateral in case of a default,  - or - lower down and somewhat better rates but with a risk of them going after my W2 wages etc in case of a default?

Originally posted by @Carl Fischer:

@Stan C.

A dba will not provide ananymity as it is a public record and will be tied to you personally. 

You can use your SS# to open a business account. You don’t need an Ein. 

I would get a P.O. box either way you go -with a dba or personally. 

The bank will give you the loan in your name but maybe you can get them to put it in dba but not sure what it buys you. Pretty sure you personally will have to sign for it. 

A dba is not a seperate entity as a trust , LLC, etc.

Thank you! Which state should I register DBA in? Rental or residence?

Should I put insurance and utilities on DBA?

Hi all. I'm about to purchase my first investment property. It will be managed by a PM company. After carefully thinking I decided not to go LLC rout yet. But I want to create a DBA ("doing business as") which is a fictitious business name. Thus, a few questions.

1. I live in NY, property will be in NC. Which state should I create the DBA in? County Clerk's office of the county where the property is located, or in my home county in NY?

2. Do I need to apply for EIN in order to open a business account? Or can I get a business account without an EIN? Do I need an EIN? 

3. Will my DBA's address be on the lease? If so then I need to open a PO Box. Otherwise I guess my home address will be sufficient since tenants will deal with the PM company, right? But contractors... is it a good idea to hide my address from contractors as well?

4. Should I put the loan on my name or the DBA? Title? What about insurance, taxes, utilities???

Thank you!

Post: One liability insurance better than other?

Stan C.Posted
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 20

@John Mocker, I PMed you. 

Post: One liability insurance better than other?

Stan C.Posted
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 20
Originally posted by @John Mocker:

Stan,

There are several things you can look into to evaluate the claims handling/paying of an insurance company.  AM Best, Standard & Poors and a few other services rate the claims paying ability (financial strenghth, etc.) of Insurance companies.  Insurance departments in several states rate the companies based on average number of complaints per set number (per 100 or per 1000 policies).  That only takes into account complaints to the Insurance department.  Some times there will be an issue that gets resolved only when it it about to go to a complaint.  Lastly, I have not actually seen it but I think there is a rating of the companies by attorneys. 

The other way to compare is to contact an agent with multiple companies and have them give you a comparison of both price and claims service.   If the agency is large, they may also have an in-house claims person that deals with multiple companies claims. 

Be sure to evaluate if there are any exclusions that will impact the Liability (pollution, animals, etc.).  Depending on the type of property and the policy used to insure it, there may be endorsements you should consider.  

Hope this helps.   If you want more info feel free to PM me.

 Many thanks! I will do a research on AM Best, Standard & Poors. I didn't think of any insurance rating services. If anyone else can recommend other services - please post them here. I'm this info can be vital to many investors. 

 Do most liability policies cover legal defence fees in case of a lawsuit by a tenant against a policyholder? 

Post: One liability insurance better than other?

Stan C.Posted
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 20

Is there such a thing as one liability insurance provider being better than others in terms or a chance of paying out liability claims? If so, what is the name of such insurance provider? Property would be in NC. 

This may help me decide whether I'd go the LLC route or sole proprietorship. But this thread is not about LLC vs sole proprietorship, but about insurance providers.

Does anyone know if I'm required to have a flood insurance for a property on Onslow Drive, Jacksonville, NC, 28540. That's Bell Fork / Hawkside area of the town. If not required then is it strongly recommended or not at all?   My loan application was approved in a conditions that I well get a cheaper insurance that the current one, the bank got quotes from 3 insurers that I can choose from, but none of plans offer flood insurance and liability is 100k - 300k. I guess if bank did approve it without flood insurance then I don't need one? 

With regards to crime rates, all sites give different info! This one says it's very high crime rates in this neighborhood of the town: https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/nc/jacksonville/...

This one shows yellow:  http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Jacksonville-North-Carolina.html

But Trulia shows completely green - which is safest. Go figure. Any idea? 

https://www.trulia.com/real_estate/28546-Jacksonville/crime/

Originally posted by @Vivek Shah:

@Stan C.

As active duty military myself, I know that most of the younger single marines there are required to stay on base. Most of the guys that are allowed to live off base are after 3 years of commitment or if they are married, which will bring down the risk of ruining the property because of maturity and having a family. Also, most of those guys are there for training which is about a year. If they are there as instructors or an actual job, they will most likely be there for about 3 years. Just my two cents since I'm active military. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Vivek

 Thank you, Sir. That helps.