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All Forum Posts by: Steve K.

Steve K. has started 29 posts and replied 2802 times.

The best part of out of state investing is that agents in popular markets for out of state investors get to sell the same properties to new out of state investors every 2-3 years. 

Post: Colorado based rookie

Steve K.#4 Wholesaling ContributorPosted
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Quote from @Shiloh Lundahl:

Hey@Steve K. i'm sure we've had this conversation before on BIggerPockets, but remind me, where is your property in Costa Rica? We have three properties out there. One just south of Tamarindo, one near La Fortuna, and one between San Ramon and Esparza up in the mountains.

Dominical. 

Post: Just Getting Started

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House hacking in Denver would be my recommendation. But I wouldn’t be focused on a multifamily in your situation as they are pretty rare to find in an entry-level price point in this area and if they are under ~$1M it’s probably going to be in bad condition or in a bad location (with some exceptions of course, but harder to find that a single family home in a good location that will appreciate better). I’d look for a housemate house-hack situation. Or if you need more privacy than that, look for something with a walkout basement that can lock off and function like 2 separate units. 

Post: Brand New Investor

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I know a lot of people who have made a lot of money in real estate here in Colorado. I don’t know a single person who has regretted owning property here (I’m sure there are some of course, but pretty rare and probably their own fault they didn’t succeed, not the market’s fault). I know 1 or 2 people who live here and have done well investing out of state. However I know many, many more people who have tried that and have failed miserably. Probably 9 out of 10 people who I know that have tried investing out of state have run into the same problems: turnovers costing too much, cap ex, tenant issues, management issues, etc. have erased anticipated cash flow and they have ended up losing money every month instead of making money, then sold after a few years. Some have made money on the sale and were lucky that the market had moved in their favor. Others broke even, most lost money. And that was when market conditions were much more favorable for this type of investing than they are now. A few friends of mine were just straight up taken advantage of and ripped off and lost a lot of money even despite the market moving in their favor. It’s possible but a lot harder and riskier to invest in real estate out of state and succeed. Many reasons for this. Also the small percentage of people I know who have had success with it have deep connections to the markets they invest in: they used to live there or grew up there, travel there often or have close family members living there. Also they are the type of people who would have been successful anywhere. They survived despite the additional challenges of investing remotely, but arguably could have done much better just investing locally, and it would have been much easier. I wouldn’t do it unless you have plenty of capital to spend on things like capex issues and turnovers. And if you have plenty of capital, why not just invest here…. Just my .02! 

Post: Colorado based rookie

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Welcome to BP Christopher! A great strategy in this market is value add. Buy the worst property in the best location you can afford, fix it up to the quality of the surrounding properties, and you can force a lot of appreciation quickly that way. If you’re handy which it sounds like you are, and are able to source and negotiate good deals  (which by being a long time local with an existing social network makes that part easier) then these skills will help you save money on rehab costs and by buying right (critical). This isn’t an “off the shelf” cashflow market but cashflow comes over time with rent increases. None of the properties in my portfolio cash-flowed on day one but they all do $500-2,000 per door now. In fact the properties I bought here specifically for cash flow (multi families in mediocre locations) did not end up performing as well as my other properties over all, so I sold them and put that money into more properties with less upfront cashflow on paper but better overall returns. Location, location, location are all I really look for in a new purchases now based on my investing experience. Worst house on best block, that’s really the secret. 

We have a lot in common I love Mexico and crypto as well. I have never pulled the trigger in Mexico but have property in Costa Rica. The finance piece is always tricky with foreign investing so it ends up being an entirely different strategy. Development, short term rentals, and value add can be very lucrative but it’s a whole different animal. Anyway I’d love to chat if you want and welcome to BP!  

Post: First time home buyer slum lord

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Quote from @Tom Grieshammer:

Ok. This has swayed me against the D class neighborhoods. And I hear what you’re saying about getting a primary residence first. But with my situation, I’m switching jobs so I’d prefer to wait to know where I work before I get place to live for a year. And even though an investment property will eat up a lot of my liquidity rn I’ll be able to save a good amount of money living at home for another year. Am I missing something that still makes a primary residence as a first property more attractive? Thanks for your help.

The advantages of house hacking/ buying a primary first over an investment property are that your down payment can be much lower (3-5% instead of 20-30%), and your interest rate will be much better with an owner-occ loan also (usually at least 1% less than investment loan). Also you typically get rid of rent by buying a home, and rent is basically 100% interest, but that doesn't apply if you'd be living with your parents and not paying rent. 

 Add me to the list of people saying to buy in a better location. The best deals I have done were all the least expensive houses in great locations. Buying an ugly fixer-upper for a good price that is surrounded by much more expensive properties and fixing it up to the median is the best way to force appreciation quickly and set yourself up for success IMO. Location, location, location! If I could go back and start over I would buy less properties than I did, and focus only on the best locations I could afford.  

Post: High Realtor Fees, Can someone explain?

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Quote from @Rachel Weiss:

Thanks to everyone who took the time to answer. The explanations I got are about 1- the value and 2- the expenses, self-employed, no health insurance/vacation.

I have a question though. The process/work is the same with every transaction; it doesn't make a difference if the house is 100k, 500k, 1mm, or 2mm. The fact that commission is percentage-based is weird because why would someone doing the same thing make double as someone else? c

In other words, I do understand when the realtor fee for a 400k is $20k. but when I sell a home for 2.2M and I pay a realtor $110k things start to not make sense. Yes, I do flip homes for this price. average Americans earn this amount in a full year! 

For those asking, staging is paid by us. 

If you are flipping $2M homes, providing repeat business for an agent in the $2M price point, then I'd recommend building a relationship with a great local agent and negotiating a mutually beneficial arrangement. Commissions are negotiable. 

Post: High Realtor Fees, Can someone explain?

Steve K.#4 Wholesaling ContributorPosted
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One thing I wish more people realized about agent's commissions is that we're not just pocketing the whole $60k or whatever the number is that you see listed on the settlement statement. We pay all of our expenses out of that which includes: broker split (my brokerage takes 22% of the total commission, this varies by brokerage and is typically anywhere from 5-50% depending on how much support the brokerage provides and whether or not the agent is on a team), transaction fees, transaction coordinator cut, income taxes (15-20% of what's left after broker gets their cut), errors and omissions insurance, MLS fees, board of Realtors dues, required continuing education costs, vehicle and vehicle insurance plus maintenance, repairs and gas, health insurance (also health insurance for the family if they are the sole breadwinner), technology fees, desk fees (office rent), marketing materials, advertising/ lead gen, etc. If the commission is $60k maybe $10-20k of that is actual profit. If the commission is $10k, that agent is basically working for a low hourly wage. I'd pick a different job if I was working for a low hourly wage personally (one with benefits and nights and weekends off).

On the listing side: I pay all the above overhead stuff plus staging, photos (including drone photos, twilight shots, Matterport 3D virtual tour), floorplans, marketing, advertising, a deep clean, signs, open house program, the works. That's why I charge 3.2% on the listing side compared to 2.8% on the buy side. You can find discount brokerages but you get what you pay for. 

You can also totally negotiate commissions with agents. I did that before I was licensed and have done so with my clients as an agent. But keep the above in mind and be aware that if your agent is willing to negotiate poorly on behalf of themselves (many do and they end up not being in the business for long because of it), how do you think they will do negotiating on your behalf? A good agent will save you more on the transaction than they make on the commission by negotiating well and helping you avoid making expensive beginner mistakes (which I see all the time when people decide they don't need an agent or work with a cheap agent). They will also save you a lot of time by handling the transaction details so you can focus your time on however you make money or your family or hobbies. 

It can be a fun and rewarding job at times but it's also a harder one than most people realize. Agents also put the same amount of work into multiple deals and only get paid for some of them (because sometimes deals don't make it to closing, and we only get paid at closing). A lot of times it's actually really stressful too. 

A lot happens behind the scenes that clients aren't necessarily privy to and good agents spend years becoming knowledgable, learning the market inside and out to become an expert and know if a property is overpriced or a good deal, how to handle all the situations that come up and how to protect clients and keep deals from falling apart, building relationships with other agents and developing themselves professionally in order to provide value to their clients... If it weren't a high-paying job, I personally wouldn't do it. We don't get nights and weekends off, overtime pay, sick pay/ paid vacation/ any real vacation because we're always expected to be available to clients, health insurance, matching retirement plan, 401k etc. None of that which you get with a W2 job because we are 1099 contractors. Everything we make comes from the commission and if we don't make good commissions, we don't get paid well and still have all of the same overhead expenses. It's not uncommon for busy agents to work 100 hours/week so if they're not getting paid well, it's not worth it.

Post: Trump Policies Will Put Downward Pressure on Real Estate Rents/Prices

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Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @Steve K.:

@Ken M. You're welcome to dispute anything I stated that you don't believe is a fact (other than the part I stated is my opinion, although a court of law agreed with me already for one of them being a fraud). I'm sure you can do better than this dismissive and insulting comment with zero substantive counter-argument. 

Actually, if it was an informative, interesting argument/discussion that would either solve some world problem or make me more money or a better investor, I'd be interested. 
It's the illogical conclusions that are amusing, not meant to be demeaning.  "Elon and Trump are both frauds." That's actually called being delusional.

I think they can handle themselves and don't need me to speak for them.

By the way, @Steve K.:, I missed what you did that was better than either of them. They have billions & billions of arguments ($$ ) that speak for themselves.

Not trying to be unkind, but this is not the way to be influential.
 


A jury found Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business documents to cover up an extramarital affair. Trump University had to pay $24M in damages to students who were defrauded. His charity the Trump Foundation was fined $2M and was shut down by a court order for its misconduct, and for misusing charitable funds for Trumps own personal gain. He's well known for not paying contractors going back decades... How is he not a fraud in your mind?

Elon has been involved in some seriously shady stuff also. Like the solar roof scam I explained in detail above (I still welcome a counter-argument if you have anything to offer to that conversation btw). Other examples of sketchy things Elon has done are his "FSD" technology claims being false (was under investigation for this I believe but the DOJ will probably drop that now), engaging in stock manipulation and making no secret about it ("Funding Secured"), the 2019 robotaxi event where he said they'd be on the streets in 12 months (still waiting), the recent Optimus robot event where the robots were supposedly AI but were actually controlled by humans with remotes backstage, taking deposits 10 years ago for roadsters that were never made, inflating Tesla range estimates, falsified displays and corporate orders to talk owners out of bringing vehicles in for corrective service, highly questionable government contracts... there are so many examples that are arguably unadulterated fraud. You can look at the 10-Q which mentions active DOJ investigations if you don't believe me. No wonder he switched political parties and started kissing Trumps ring at the very same time that these investigations began. 

 Trump himself called Elon a "Bullsh*t artist" all the way up until Elon started supporting him. 

Today Elon had a hissy fit because an astronaut called him out for blatantly lying about astronauts being stranded in the space station and called the astronaut "fully retarded" and an "idiot" on Twitter/X. Maybe you like that but I don't think that's how a world leader should act, billions or no billions. 

If we didn't live in a two-tiered justice system (prison is for the dirt poor but not the filthy rich) both of these guys would be in prison already. They were both under investigation for crimes leading up to Trump being elected. Now all bets are off. 

But I'm the delusional one...  I'm not here to be influence anyone but it's become clear that we can't leave it up to people to educate themselves. FACT CHECK EVERYTHING TRUMP AND ELON SAY. For example the recent claims that DOGE has uncovered rampant fraud and waste have already been widely debunked. They are liars and are only involved in government because they were under investigation for multiple crimes and wanted to avoid prison. 

To your point that I haven't done what they have: You're absolutely correct. I have not made billions nor have I committed fraud. I'm fine with that. 

Post: Trump Policies Will Put Downward Pressure on Real Estate Rents/Prices

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@Ken M. You're welcome to dispute anything I stated that you don't believe is a fact (other than the part I stated is my opinion, although a court of law agreed with me already for one of them being a fraud). I'm sure you can do better than this dismissive and insulting comment with zero substantive counter-argument.