All Forum Posts by: Steve Schaeffer
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Post: DST converting to 721 UPReit Depreciation question

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Thanks everyone I really appreciate your input
Post: Cost Segregation Studies: The Hidden Passive Activity Loss Trap π’

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Hello Bruce, I meet with him tomorrow to hand in my tax info. I try to gather as much information as possible before hand and then cross check his return with TurboTax premier
Post: Cost Segregation Studies: The Hidden Passive Activity Loss Trap π’

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Quote from @Bruce D. Kowal:
As a CPA focusing on real estate taxation, I frequently encounter property investors excited about cost segregation studies. And why not? The promise of accelerated depreciation and immediate tax savings is attractive. However, there's a critical detail that many tax advisors conveniently overlook when promoting these studies.
Here's the uncomfortable truth: If you're a high-income earner (AGI > $150,000) and not actively managing your properties, those promised tax savings might be locked away for years. π
Let's break this down:
Under IRC Β§469, rental real estate activities are considered "passive" by default. Unless you qualify as a Real Estate Professional (which has strict requirements), your rental losses can only offset passive income. If you're earning primarily W-2 wages, interest, or dividends, those attractive depreciation deductions from your cost segregation study will be suspended.
Think about it this way: You might spend $10,000-$15,000 on a cost segregation study, expecting immediate tax savings, only to find those deductions suspended indefinitely.
Does this mean cost segregation studies are worthless? Absolutely not. But timing and planning are crucial.
Here's what you need to consider:
- Future Passive Income: Do you expect to generate passive income from other sources?
- Exit Strategy: When do you plan to sell the property?
- Professional Status: Could you qualify as a Real Estate Professional?
- Income Levels: Will your AGI decrease in future years below the $150,000 threshold?
Mitigation Strategies:
- Consider qualifying as a Real Estate Professional
- Generate passive income through strategic investments
- Plan property dispositions to release suspended losses
- Make appropriate grouping elections
- Structure leases to demonstrate active participation
The Bottom Line:
Cost segregation studies remain a valuable tax planning tool. However, understanding the passive activity loss limitations is crucial before making this investment. The time value of money still favors acceleration, but only if you have a clear path to eventually utilizing these losses.
Don't let your tax savings get trapped in passive activity loss limbo. Consult with a qualified tax advisor who understands these limitations and can help develop a comprehensive strategy aligned with your specific situation.
Remember: The best tax planning looks beyond immediate deductions to your complete financial picture. π
Bruce Kowal, CPA, MS Taxation
#RealEstateTax #PassiveActivityLoss #TaxPlanning
Hello Bruce,
I am actively involved in five rental properties additionally that lately I have been generatingA small amount of taxable income(under 50 K) due to High interest in tax expenses
Additionally In 2024 I 1031 exchanged a rental property for a DST that had done a cost segregation Study. Because of RMD's my (AGI > $150,000) as long as my other properties are actively managed I should be able to offset that income with the losses generated by the DST is that correct?
Post: Question regarding cost segregation doing a 1031 exchange into a DST

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Hello Ashish,
Thanks for getting back to me I really appreciate it
Regarding question one
You stated "Since the DST uses cost segregation, your depreciation breakdown appears correct, but the calculation is little more involved than this." Can you expand upon this?
Regarding question two
My rent income on the SGL came to about $6000 less than my distributions is there an issue with that?
When I got my SGL it came in with a significantly less percentage than my ownership percentage when I questioned this they stated: "The 0.19838% is his weighted average percentage based on 0.4476% ownership percentage since he came in 2/8/24. His 2025 K-1 will reflect his full ownership of 0.4476%." Does that sound right?
once again thank you for helping me out I appreciate it and so will my CPA
Post: Crew Enterprises DST Investors with suspended distributions please PM me

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Quote from @Leonid Kershteyn:
I have invested thru 1031 exchange almost 1.5 M in to 3 Crew (Versity) DSTs about 3 years ago: Inspire on 22nd, Astoria and Shadowglen. My broker (Cornerstone RE Investment Services) was giving me some updates until about 6 month ago and suddenly stopped responding to calls/emails. Crew stopped distribution on these 3 DSTs last May. Promised to renew 1st Qtr 2025. Nothing happened yet, I suspect a big fraud there. Does anybody know if any actions investors can take before its too late. Will appreciate any help.
Hello, Leonid
1. If you were too, look at the Reddit message board regarding crew, you would see that there appears to be something really fishy going on with cornerstone.
2. Could you please PM me
Post: Crew Enterprises DST Investors with suspended distributions please PM me

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Quote from @Brett Henricks:
Thank you to all the Crew/Versity Investors who have gotten in touch with me. I did want to point out that there is another forum on Reddit that has comments just like I have been hearing from you on Bigger Pockets. Here is the link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/realestateinvesting/comments/1ff1ew6/any_feed_back_on_a_dst_sponsor_called_crew/
Encouraging all Crew/Versity investors to reach out to me, I am interested in your experiences with Crew/Versity DST's. I am learning a lot and I appreciate it. The more I can learn about the 13 Crew properties with suspended distributions or other distress the better.
I agree everyone who is on this blog should cross reference the Reddit Vl
BLOG there are a lot comments and crew investors
be careful what you divulge because I noticed that crew is monitoring that blog
Post: DST converting to 721 UPReit Depreciation question

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Quote from @Jon Taylor:
Your current cost basis should carry forward and continue on your REIT OP investment. Meaning, your depreciation schedule should continue.
Do you have an *option* or are you *forced* to participate in the REIT? Does the REIT pay its cash dividend out of operating cash flow (AFFO), or is it paying its dividend out of paid-in capital?
They are trying to force us it was shown as optional in the PPM. I don't think they can because They would force me into a taxable move since I have been in DST less than 2 years
Post: DST converting to 721 UPReit Depreciation question

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I participate in a DST acquired thru a 1031 Exchange. the DST wants to transition into a 721 Upreit. What happens to my carry forward depreciation. I have had several previous 1031 exchanges that still have a lot of depreciation. After Each Exchange I have carried forward the leftover depreciation to the next property. Can I continue to take depreciation on my carry forward if go into the UPREIT?
Post: Question regarding cost segregation doing a 1031 exchange into a DST

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Let me first say I do have a CPA he is buried right now as are most tax professionals. I should've asked this question during the off-season. I like to give him as much information as possible than cross check his return with TurboTax.
I did a 1031 exchange from a rental property into a DST. The DST has cost segregation. Normally, I determine the basis in the new property by subtracting the old mortgage from the new mortgage and then adding in certain costs such as Exchange fee that occurred outside the closing.
This property has cost segregation 70% building 6% land improvement 24%
I have two questions
Question 1 I am determining my basis in the new property by:
1. subtracting the old mortgage from the new mortgage
2. adding Exchange fee, consulting fee and rebated commission back onto the basis
Example figures new adjusted basis =$210,000- land ($10000 adjusted) =$200,000
depreciate as follows 70% x 200,000 = $140,000(27.5yr) 6% x 200,000 = $12,000(15yr) 24% x 200,000 = $48,000(5yr)
question two I received the substitute grantor letter back from the which shows rent income but does not account for distributions
are the distributions I receive taxable income on top of the rent income on the grantor letter?
Post: Apex South Creek DST, Crew Enterprises/Versity Invests suspended distributions

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YES