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All Forum Posts by: Susan Tan

Susan Tan has started 90 posts and replied 200 times.

Post: Hard Money Lender Dayton Capital Partners

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

Thanks for the reviews; I'll submit a new application to buy a major fixer upper & then get a loan to rennovate it.

Post: Why Househacking n SF Bay Area is not for me

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

@Amit M. I currently rent in Oakland and I wont be able to afford a $500k 250-sqft studio in Oakland.

Post: Why Househacking n SF Bay Area is not for me

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

@David Luu I'm not interested in living in cold-weather US states where there are hail, snow, ice, tornadoes, hurricanes, 100F daily weather, or subzero winters. That limits my househacking US states to either FL, WA, OR, and others that are not coastal HCOL states.

Post: Share Your Retirement Age

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

70 yrs old after a life of travel & art collecting.

Post: Why Househacking n SF Bay Area is not for me

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

Only from experience of walking around quiet suburbs and touring properties did I finally realize that house hacking in SF Bay Area is not for me. This month, I've toured a number of condos & single family houses in the Far East Bay suburbs of the SF Bay Area with my realtor. All of them are $500k+ properties and above. Real zoned duplexes and multifamily apartments start at $800k+ in SF Bay Area, which is beyond my budget. Each time I tour a property in either Hercules, Richmond, El Sobrante, or Pinole, I came away feeling more and more disappointed.

There were so many big tasks that come with house hacking in general. I had to think creatively about converting the bonus room or dining room into an extra bedroom and creating new drywall to partition extra space into a new bedroom. And even then I'd still have to share the same kitchen and living room with potential tenant roommates. To think about screening tenants myself & creating house rules for potential roommate tenants seems like a big task. To further go shopping for furniture & interior wall decor & interviewing a contractor also seem like big expensive tasks. The responsibilities of a property owner who does house hacking does not end on the closing date of the property. 


None of these quiet safe suburbs are in walking distance to grocery stores and shopping centers. I don't drive nor own a car so living in a quiet isolated suburb would mean relying heavily on Uber each time I am outside of the house. I love using Uber & Lyft to get anywhere but I also like walkable cities a lot more.

I'm also amazed that an exact 1,500 square feet single family home is orders of magnitude more in SF Bay Area compared to the Midwest. Putting a $200-$300k downpayment on a negatively cash flowing property in SF Bay Area would easily cover at least 10 down payments on 10 different Midwestern properties that each have a CAP rate of 8% or more. I don't want to play the appreciation game in CA; I invest for positive cash flow on every property I buy. CA is not a cash-flowing state. Combined with strong tenant protection & no eviction laws, this seems like investing anywhere outside CA or HCOL coastal cities is the better investment decision.

I decided I don't want to drastically alter my lifestyle from living in a walkable urban area to living in a car-based suburb. Sure, I may have thrown away the massive investment gain that a negatively cash flowing CA property would appreciate 2x or 3x more in future. I'm sure a LOT of CA-based investors primarily bet on appreciation and pay out of pocket for the expenses & mortgage. I don't believe in being house rich & cash poor. I'm going to continue to rent in SF Bay Area and continue to invest in the Midwest as I've been doing for the past year. To help me stick to the plan, I made a post-it note on the wall in front of me that states my investing goal this year. None of them have anything to do w/ the SF Bay Area.

Post: Review a business plan draft to get 5 passive investors for deal

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

I wrote up a business plan to get at least 5 passive partners to buy a fourplex in Cincinnati, OH under a fourplex LLC (I would hold title & deed) and then give back the initial investment money in 1-4 years while they get monthly cash flow distributions up until I pay them the initial investment money. I already have the realtor & property management connections. If you have experience in doing partnerships as a lead investor, any interest in reviewing my draft and giving feedback? Would this business plan require a PPM? It's a 7-8 slide Google presentation.

W​orst case: if ​I ​don​'​t​​ get any interest ​in the business plan, ​I'll buy it for m​yself​ w/ a conventional mortgage​.​

Post: My First Small Apartment Building- Success Story

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

Congrats!!

Post: Split Half the Downpayment w/ a Business Partner?

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

update: I'm planning to write up a business plan to get at least 5 passive partners on a fourplex in Cincinnati, OH to buy in cash under my LLC (I would hold title & deed) and then give back the initial investment money in 1-4 years while they get monthly cash flow distributions. Is this called a PPM? Have you done this before and if yes, what should I look out for?

Post: Split Half the Downpayment w/ a Business Partner?

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

The partner gets the monthly cash flow AFTER mortgage & utilities are all paid off. I'll pay for repairs & renovations out of pocket. If there's a vacancy, I'll pay for mortgage, utilities, real estate taxes, & insurance bills out of pocket while partner won't get cash flow for that month. 

Post: Split Half the Downpayment w/ a Business Partner?

Susan TanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 148

I have a creative financing idea that I want to run by you all. What is your feedback on the legal & tax ramifications?

I'm planning to buy a rent-ready vacant fourplex in Cincinnati, OH. I don't have enough cash for the downpayment so I decide to bring on a passive business partner who helps pay for 50% of the downpayment & closing costs while I get the title & deed. In return the business partner gets a monthly rent check starting on closing date for up to 1 year. After that 1 year is over, I pay back the 50% of downpayment & closing costs directly to the business partner and the partner no longer gets the rent checks. I have the property manager, realtor, contractor, and lender contacts in place while the passive business partner brings only money to table. What can go wrong?