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All Forum Posts by: Syed H.

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Post: The "Infinite Return" BRRRR is BS

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Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:

I thought you were going into fees and seasoning time.  A refi alone costs $3-$5k usually plus your effort and indigestion the refi process is.  Can't really hire out the get me another document for the 3rd time time.

Then there's 6-12 months seasoning for the best loans to use new appraised value. Seasoning? What do ya mean?  I thought I just go to the bank once a tenant is placed. LOL

I make the best value for time when I do the high dollar admin tasks.  It can be a pain, but coordinating the seller, buyer, tenant, etc without licensees saves me $10s of thousands.  Current exchange transaction savings is $57k x 2 with no agents but it wasn't/isn't easy.    Alternate financing savings was around $12k with no appraisals, originations, processing,, underwriting prep, etc fees. 

Then there's $5s of thousands  and less indigestion using good private lenders and self-drafting paperwork you've hired out numerous times.  Copy what you've paid for before.  Not like RE docs change format every week. 

Look at your settlement and truth in lending statements and learn how to do some of those high cost tasks. Can you perform that $27,000 item? That $1750 one?  Long ago I looked and decided I need to learn THAT. What is up with that massive cost? That's a week worth of napping, hammering, etc. How do I mitigate that? 

By saving these dollars you can compensate yourself for the time and effort (plus more) you mention. I don't see these huge costs discussed at all. 

great points about the fees. People don't understand how much they add up. Trying to mitigate some of those fees have a HUGE ROI.

I personally close on most deals in cash and then refi out after I’ve turn the property. On singles I can do that in 3-6 months. Multis obviously take longer but the forced appreciation is also much higher.

To deal with the seasoning and the prostate exam refi’s require, I like building relationships with my bankers. My main bank gets my yearly tax docs anyway. I never have to give them anything new for any refi or purchase. They never hold reserves from me, never ask for any abnormal/burdensome docs, and do not require any seasoning. 

It’s funny Bc one of my mortgage brokers gets worse terms and a harder process from this same bank. 


Post: Why shouldn't I buy a hundred cheap SFH in a cashflow market?

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100 single families are hard to manage. 100 SFHs have 100 roofs. & Most importantly, everything cash flows on a spreadsheet. Many don't in real life. Maintenance is a lot higher on 100 sfhs, usually mainly because it's just more square footage. 

Large SFH portfolios can be done, its just not as easy as people say it is and you need to buy them for CHEAP (which isn't easy to do in any decent market).

Post: What do you drive to your rental properties?

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Honestly, it doesn’t matter.

I personally drive a 2019 Honda. Mainly because I don’t like my employees in my other businesses seeing anything super nice and I hate dealing with unreliable cars for my DD. I just want it to work. No time to deal with things breaking.


But I know plenty of landlords with a lot more experience, units, and money than me that drive nice cars to their buildings etc. Don’t pull up in a Ferrari, but any Luxury crossover/suv isn’t going to get looked at twice either. & even if they do, so what. That’s their problem. 

Post: Purchased first rental property

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Congrats on the purchase. Remember when you buy in 18102, maintenance/capex is higher than usual. $1200 rent for a $85,000 sounds great, but honestly its not a crazy high return. I would imagine you will clear $150-$200/month, which is low for a SFH IMO. $85k, for experienced buyers, isn't really cheap in the area unless you are buying on a really good block. I would shoot to be in a SFH between $55k-$70k in 18102. Also, for just 1 SFH, you are close enough in NY to manage it yourself IMO. Just find a good handyman.

IDK much about Reading, but philly is a great market to invest in. 

Post: sell now, gather cash, be prepared and get ready. market crash.

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No offense but when you come online and say something drastic, maybe post your experience and net worth. I don't necessarily disagree, I do think prices should/will come down, but if you don't have experience investing in a larger scale and/or have been through some cycles, it's hard to take your advice. Just like you are saying the world is ending, other people are saying we'll be fine. 

You also have to remember people need to do something with their money. Holding cash is a decision as well. If you believe that inflation will sky rocket, than holding cash isn't a good idea either. Also remember, even if you have cash, you still might not be able to buy in a horrendous market. Liquidity dries up and everyone is chasing the bottom. Everyone says they will buy during the down cycle, but it is easier said than done. If that was true, a lot more people would have bought between 2008-2010. But the truth is sales volume for investment grade product plummeted those years.

I personally have been buying, and will keep buying value add and entry level home flips. The true REI's I've met that have been doing this successfully for 20+ years, have bought in every cycle.

Post: 6.625% Rate for Cash out BRRR

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Originally posted by @Kenneth Garrett:

@Ian Middleton

I think you could get a better rate with a commercial loan.  The qualification is based on cash flow.  Just offering another option.  I have done many commercial loans with small local banks.

Same. My latest loan was @ 4.25% with a local bank for a SFH cash out

Post: Cash flow market VS not cash flow market but appreciation

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Originally posted by @Darius Ogloza:

I personally am strongly with @Dan Heuschele and Syed H.  Direct real estate ownership is a great wealth building tool.  The greatest in the world when you look at total return on investment and available tax deferral strategies.  For cash flow, I rely on dividend paying blue chips and mortgage REITs.  

Also to be fair, I also own cash flow properties. I think a solid mix of both is always ideal. 

Post: Cash flow market VS not cash flow market but appreciation

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Depends how wealthy you are and how much money your need now vs later. 

Negative cash flow I wouldn’t do, but minimal cash flow + appreciation makes a lot of people extremely rich. Richer than most investors in cash flow markets. 

You see a large bias towards cash flow only markets in this forum because many people here are looking to replace their w2 income ASAP. Most investors here also don’t have the net worth or knowledge to invest in the difficult appreciation markets. Higher barriers of entry are a good thing for existing investors. Most investors in primary markets like Miami, NYC, SF; etc, have net worth way above $5m. 

Originally posted by @Taylor Jones:

The difference here is that many landlords are individual investors. They aren't some large corporation that has to answer to many shareholders. And even if they are, it is probably a small group of friends and family that are growing with you, not coming late to the party looking for an immediate return. 

The truth is, that this is a people to people business. People want to be treated with respect and it can seem petty to nickel and dime them for all their worth. I think its a valid question to ask why rent is increasing. Real estate investors should ask the same thing. After all, there is a nationwide problem of affordable housing and an ever widening gap between the rich and poor. Meanwhile, real estate investors are squeezing extra dollars out of their tenant, and transferring cashflow from the have-nots to the haves. We shouldn't hide behind some "this is a business" slogan. Eventually you have to take responsibility and try to be part of the solution, not the problem. 

You speak of raising rents 5-8%, yet Inflation has been under 2% a year lately. So why is rent increasing? Is it to keep up some fancy percentage return? Is it to pay for a higher priced mortgage after refinancing at a new appraised price? Maybe there are a few growing expenses, but then again inflation is only 2%. 

So does being an individual investor and not a public traded company or god forbid a Private equity shop any more or less of a business? Many individual investors use that income as a means to retire, as a means to pay their bills; etc etc. 

& since you have 2 posts, and probably know nothing about the economics of housing, you ask why does rent have to go up 5-8%, when inflation has been sub 2%? Well there are many logical answers to that. 

1st: Taxes do not follow CPI. 

2nd: Utility companies do not follow CPI. 

3rd: Because that is what a property owner WANTS. It is his or her property. They can do with it what they want. They can leave it empty if they want to. 

4th: When market rents go down, Tenants ask for reductions or move to cheaper apartments. Why shouldn't landlord raise rents every year when rents are going up? 

It is a disservice to tenants to not raise rents. If you never raise rents, you do not have enough funds to maintain your properties. Want to know why slumlords have pretty cheap rents? Because they don't put a single penny into their properties. They do the bare minimum (sometimes even less than that). You can't afford to maintain your properties well if you don't raise rents. Don't buy into the socialistic cooled, there is not a huge margin in rentals. People get wealthy from RE because of long term investment, leverage, and tax benefits. Not because of price gouging. 

Post: Why I love being a Passive Investor in Syndications (30% IRR!!)

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While I have achieved higher returns than most passive LP deals, I do agree with Andrey that most people would be better off investing with good sponsors or funds.  There's a reason GPs make what they make & why LP make what they make. It is much harder to be a successful GP than a successful LP. 

People don’t realize the time commitment of owning assets themselves. Owning assets is good for people who are in the business of RE already. A flipper who owns rentals, a syndicator who owns rentals or flips, a PM/Agent that owns flips/rentals; etc etc. If you are already in the business it makes perfect sense to own assets. I wouldn't own so much real estate if I didn't make RE my primary business. Part time RE sounds horrible.