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All Forum Posts by: Tiana O.

Tiana O. has started 9 posts and replied 34 times.

Post: How did you get your first 10 rental properties?

Tiana O.
Posted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 27
Originally posted by @Kyle McCorkel:

@Tiana O.

I have 8 units right now, acquired in the last 2 years.  Your goals are totally realistic.

I think most people start by buying conventional on the first few deals.  Then they realize their money is running out, and they start looking for more creative strategies.

If you are at the right time in life I think house hacking is by far the best way to get started. House hack a 4-plex with an FHA loan, it is probably the best thing you could do for your finances.

My first 4 properties were financed through conventional loans with 20%-25% down payments. Now I am doing BRRRR financed with cash and HELOC's (from primary and 2 rental properties). I will be using a little bit of private money on the next deal, most likely.

 Hey Kyle, it’s good to hear that you have been able to acquire so many properties in a short amount of time. That definitely gives me hope. I think I’m going to have to start searching some different rental markets. Where I am in the DC area, it’s hard to find properties low enough to acquire multiple. Baltimore on the other hand, has a ton (along with its own problems).

I’m not sure the extent to which I can house hack. I’m already renting out rooms in my current home to some friends. If I can find a duplex or multifamily in DC to house hack, I’ll jump on it. But right now, I’m priced out of the DC market, and I’m not quite ready to move out of the city. I think I’m going to start looking at the Homepath or Homestyle loans pretty soon. Those seem like good options for buying fixers.

Post: How did you get your first 10 rental properties?

Tiana O.
Posted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 27
Originally posted by @Nick Watkins:

Hi, my suggestion is listen to the podcast alot of older ones talk about this, and go to forums and read the success stories! 

 Thanks Nick. I listen to podcasts for hours every day. I think I can officially claim a BP podcast addiction. But, for me, it's also inspiring to hear more about people's first deals and how long it took them to scale to a larger portfolio. I like that BP has some newbie shows, but I would also love to hear directly from the BP Fam.

Post: How did you get your first 10 rental properties?

Tiana O.
Posted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 27

Hey BP Fam, do you remember your first 10 rental properties?

As a newbie REI, I would love to hear more about your experiences starting out. I've set a 10 year goal for myself to acquire 50 rental units. As a shorter term goal, I want to get at least 10 rental units in the next 3 years (maybe a couple of SFHs and a couple of duplexes or 4-plexes). I've heard for new investors many banks require at least 2 years of rental income on your tax returns before they will allow only the rental unit by itself (not your debt-to-income ratio) to qualify for the investment mortgage. (Side note: has anyone been able to get around that 2 year requirement).

I'm looking for some anecdotal evidence on how realistic is my goal of 10 units in 3 years and 50 units in 10 years. Can anyone tell me how long it took for them to get their 10th deal, or 10th unit? Also, what did your first 10 deals or 10 units compose of (ex. Single family homes, duplexes, 4-plexes, larger multifamilies, apartments)?

Additionally, what strategies did you use to finance your first 10? (BRRR, hard money lenders, conventional mortgages, house-hacking, saving for 20-25% down each time, helocs, private equity firms, syndication, private lenders or investors, etc.)

Post: I don't understand when people refi and "get their money back"

Tiana O.
Posted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 27
Originally posted by @Jay J.:

@Scott L. look at the example @JD Martin gave..

"Buy house for $100k with $20k down, $80k mortgage. Put $25k into fixing it. Get it appraised for $160k. Refinance mortgage to $125k. Pay off $80k mortgage and take back your $20k cash plus your $25k fixing it. The only equity left behind was the increase in value."

1. You paid (for the example) $20k out of pocket for the down payment.

2. You carry a mortgage of $80k.

2a. You then fix up the house, using $20k (of your cash)

3. You then get it re-appraised at (hopefully) $150k, so you can get a $125k, mortgage.

4. The refi pays off mortgage #1 ($80k) and pays you back the $20k (rehab $), and you still walk with the difference (in this case $80k+$20k=$100k, leaving $25k)

I hope the clears it up!!

If you buy a property using a mortgage, and then renovate it, and rent it out. How long do you have to wait before your bank is willing to refinance for the ARV? The minimum time I've heard is 6 months. Has anyone heard anything different? Have you all ran across banks with different seasoning requirements? For example, I've heard some of the bigger banks may require longer seasoning requirements, in comparison to some of the smaller local ones.