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All Forum Posts by: Tyler J.

Tyler J. has started 25 posts and replied 46 times.

Quote from @Jim Pellerin:

@Tyler J. The Cap Rate is NOI / Purchase Pirce. So in your spreadsheets, it would be J13/D14. And because you bought it with all cash, your ROI, Cap Rate and CoC are all the same, 24%. You should include an IRR calculation,

Thank you Jim. I’ll add an IRR. 
I think I still may be a little lost. Is Cap Rate my NOI over the home cost or how much of my own cash I put into the deal? What would Cash on Cash me then? Or are they the similar?

I cant seem to figure out what parts Ive done right or wrong and would love if someone could double-check my work

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Ive been looking everywhere. Everything is unorganized looking or password protected. I did make my own, but Im not sure ive done it right. Here is what mine looks like and what I would like one to look like but possible with a working 5 year projection or graph

Im hoping someone would be able to tell me what needs to be fixed. I have one section for when I live in the property and one where I am renting it out. 

Thanks all!     https://easyupload.io/ar1m5a

Is this possible?

The property I'm looking at is currently fully rented out (one unit is on NNN).
is it possible to qualify to put less than 20% down since the building proves there is income already? 

Or is it possible to get an assessment on the property and if it’s worth more than what I’m buying it for to pay the difference?

(Example property is selling for 500k. I get an appraiser to say it’s worth 550k. I pay the 50k difference for 20% of 500k). Does that work?

I obviously want to invest in this property but want to see if there’s other ways than having 20% cash on me of the properties value. 

Thanks all!


Quote from @Erik Estrada:
Quote from @Tyler J.:

This quadplex I want is both residential and commercial. My current lender is saying I need a commercial loan for the property. I see a lot of places see you need 30% LTV on a commercial loan which I don't have.

What are my options? Thanks all!


 If you have other properties you can achieve this by doing a cross collateralized hard money loan. There is a balloon in 2-3 years of course. 

Hey Eric,

How would I refi? Would I hope to have 25% equity within the 2-3 years so I can refi with a traditional home with nothing down?
I have one property but only about 20% equity in it. Would that be a possibility?

Which ways can I go about this? 
I know it’s possible to get a hard money lender as a 2nd lien position, but I believe not many would take this chance. 
Is that the only way or are there other possibilities to get 20% down on a commercial property without having the funds of my own?

Quote from @Scott E.:

I have taken out 2 commercial loans in the past couple of years on a medical building and an office building. In both cases the max leverage I could get was 75%.

You can shop around (make sure to try the credit unions) but I doubt you'll find anybody willing to finance a commercial deal at 96.5% LTV. Remember that commercial lenders are going to look at the monthly income compared to the monthly debt on the deal. I don't even have to see your deal to know the numbers won't pencil out with that much leverage (especially with rates being so high)

Thank you Scott. Let’s say I need 25% LTV. Would you know of any way I can get this loan without me having the 25% down? Not sure if that’s possible 

This quadplex I want is both residential and commercial. My current lender is saying I need a commercial loan for the property. I see a lot of places see you need 30% LTV on a commercial loan which I don't have.

What are my options? Thanks all!

Quote from @David M.:

@Tyler J.

First of all, you need to find out if the seller is even interested in seller financing.  Maybe they need the funds for their next deal, or home.

Personally, I wouldn't lean so hard on your own agent.  People seem to think agents are supposed to be able to do everything super well--- it depends on what you need or want your agent for.  You can always ask for a meeting with the seller, which is nicely thelisting agent, and the three of you can sit down (or teleconference) and negotiate this aspect of the deal.

Getting the initial $200k loan will be difficult assuming you are going with the selling price near the asking price.  You will need to disclose to the lender how the remaining $300k will be settled.  Seller financing SHOULD be more expensive than a conforming loan so the bank won't be able to approve you given what you've said.  Also, the seller would also be taking a second position lien which will be much riskier for them.  

Lets face it, anything could work since most everything is negotiable.  But, in this seller's market I'm not sure why he would take this deal.  You said it yourself, he will probably get more than asking.  Why bother taking less than what the market can give, have a 2nd position lien, and become a lender???  We just had a similar thread and the board was of the mindset of "gotta bea  way to make the deal" and/or "find a better agent to represent you.."  etc.

Put it another way:  if you were the seller why would you accept this deal?  ---- That being said, you need to figure out what the other party really needs/wants.  If it doesn't match up, it doesn't match up.  That's business, sometimes unfortunately.

Sorry I couldn't be more positive.  Good luck.


 You’re absolutely right though. My hopes is that the seller does not need ALL the cash right away and would be interested in the additional interest income. 
I was not aware of the 2nd position lean. I now see how that can cause issues, and if I was the seller I probably would not take that deal. 

Thank you for the feedback. I may bring up the idea to my agent if my initial offer is not accepted. Thank you again!