All Forum Posts by: Vincent Pace

I would love to see what we can do for you!

I would love to see what we can do for you!

@Cheri K Stephens you either need to look for a lender or find a partner to help finance your deals. Additionally, I strongly suggest you form an LLC as it is one of the best ways to protect yourself financially in the event of a default.

@Federico Portalupi I would love to see what we can do for you! 

Three words. The three words that I am about to type could end up saving you thousands of dollars in wasted money. Here it is, are you sitting down? Run your numbers. Run. your. Numbers. Why? Because sometimes a higher rate could be a lower cost of capital.

Which of these is cheaper: 12% and 2 points or 16.99% and 0 points.

Answer: It depends.

In the picture above, the curved grey line represents your cost of borrowing at a given time at 12% and 2 points. The yellow line represents 0 points and 16.99%. As you can see, the lines intersect, and a the difference between the lines is the amount you would save or lose. If you were able to rehab quickly enough, 16.99% would be cheaper than 12%!

What happens when you add two more points on to the 12?

16.99% is cheaper than 12% and 4 points until day 288; that's nearly 10 months!

Now let me ask you this: which of these is the better deal?

• 12% and 0 points, interest accruing on the full loan amount
• 16.99% and 0 points, interest accruing on only amounts funded

Answer: It depends. To compare, you need to know how much money will be out and for how long.

Let's look at an example. The loan for the purchase is $100,000. The construction loan is $60,000, provided in 3 $20,000 draws on days 30, 45, and 60 of the project. Also, the property sells and the loan is repaid on day 120 of the project. Here's what the two loans would look like; 12% on funded and unfunded amounts compared to 16.99% on only funded amounts.

The dark yellow section on bottom represents the funds being charged on interest at 16.99% on funded amounts only. The up-ticks represent increased interest on rehab draws. The grey section represents the additional loan amount you pay interest on when the lender charges interest on the total loan amount from day one. Here's what the interest accrued looks like for both loans:

The gray area shows how you accrue more interest, even at the lower rate!

12% accruing on the full loan amount = $6,400 in total interest.

16.99% accruing on only amounts funded = $5,500 in total interest, a savings of $1,100.

Counter-intuitively, your costs of capital are 14% lower at the higher rate.

It gets even worse with points!

So, what's the point? Well, paying interest on only amounts funded can result in big savings, even at a lower rate. The larger your construction budget, the better paying on only amounts funded will be. Paying on only amounts funded will save you more the longer it takes to reach full funding. And, of course, run your numbers!!

I would not jump the gun and assume that just because a lender asks for a fee whether it be legal deposit or upfront that they are scam artists--that is a very one dimensional way of thinking. Instead, I suggest you google reviews for the lender or see if any articles or blogs are posted about the lender practicing shifty business. 

Although, I do think lender should have a reimbursement plan if they offer fees because a fee could just be a barrier to keep out anyone who is not serious about a deal.

@Shannon McKenna I suggest you potentially hire an attorney and discuss your situation, but I like https://www.incorporate.com/business_structure_comparison_chart.html as it is a basic chart with the clear pros and cons.

It depends, each lender is different and some may give you a better rate, but others may just simply say, "congratulations you purchased the property for a steal." And unfortunately, it is the same answer for your down payment. I suggest calling as many lenders you can and ask them what their policy is.

Welcome to Bigger Pockets! Best of luck to you in your real estate investing endeavors! 

Barnett Capital is a hard money lender based in Chicago, but familiar and active nationwide. We provide renovation financing, new-construction refinancing, as-is financing, and sight-unseen financing. 

On our website, www.barnettreifinance.com, you can access our loan calculator that compares our rates to competitors using your project, your numbers.

Loan calculator as well as our lending guidelines are located at http://www.barnettreifinance.com/resources/

We have a no points program as well as various points programs to create a loan customized to your needs!