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All Forum Posts by: Zoe Brennan

Zoe Brennan has started 4 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 23
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

@Marcus Auerbach gave you some great advice. Hiring a 20 year old agent is similar to hiring a 20 year old financial adviser. It's just hard for a lot of people to get there regardless of how talented the individual may be. The one unfair advantage that you have, as I see it, is that middle aged and older folks LOVE seeing a young person working really hard. 

Don't act like you know more than you actually do. It's going to be a lot of "I know I'm young; I get it, but I'm cheap and will work my a$$ off. Give me a shot - you won't regret it." 

Be humble, hungry, hard working, and find a W2 to pay the bills while you build up your business.


Thanks for the great advice! I know trust takes time to build, so I’m focused on proving my work ethic, reliability, and value through action. I’m all in on making it happen!

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
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Quote from @Corina Eufinger:

@Zoe Brennan Welcome to the Wisconsin BP Community! To get exposure as a real estate agent see if any experienced agents in your firm would allow you to assist with open houses or handle buyer referrals for them. (Agents like to keep listings, but they might send you buyer leads since they take up more time.) You may be able to find some freelance work assisting a real estate investor in the area by getting your hands dirty.  This would give you the knowledge and also $$ for that downpayment as real estate agent work starts out slow. Please free to reach out and chat!


Thanks for the warm welcome and the great advice! I’m already working on doing open houses and am really excited about the opportunity. I know getting hands-on experience is key, so I’m actively looking for ways to get more involved and put myself out there. Appreciate the insight, and I’d love to stay connected!

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
  • Posts 19
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Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Zoe Brennan You can use the info below to pursue either real estate sales or investment sales:)

Why does everyone want to chase strangers – and ignore their own personal network?

Which do you think will be more competitive, buying from wholesalers or your own referrals?

Per this NY Times article, the average American knows around 600 people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/science/the-average-american-knows-how-many-people.html#:~:text=The%20average%20American%20knows%20about,do%20you%20know%20named%20Kevin%3F

Per the US Census Bureau, the average American moves 11.7 time in their life, which based upon an approximate lifespan of 84 years, works out to be about every 7 years.
https://www.census.gov/topics/population/migration/guidance/calculating-migration-expectancy.html#:~:text=Using%202007%20ACS%20data%2C%20it,one%20move%20per%20single%20year

So, if the average American knows 600 people and they each move about every 7 years, that means that the average American knows around 85 people that move in any given year.

How many of those moves do you want to be involved in?

To maximize the number of transactions you’re involved in you will need to:

  • Be Top of Mind when they think about moving - which requires consistent reminders.
  • Be seen as an Expert – which requires a consistent message and Evidence of Success stories
  • Gain their Trust – which requires communicating integrity

So, start out by listing everyone you know in an Excel spreadsheet.

Why Excel? Because later, you can easily use it as your mailing list! Create columns for Name, Street Address, City, State, Zip and then contact info: Last Contact, Relationship, Status, Email & Phone.

IMPORTANT: do NOT ask people for THEIR business, ask for referrals! Why? Because they will get defensive if they feel you are pressuring them. Remember, they can always refer themselves😊

Now, make it a goal to call at least 5-10 of these people EVERY day and ask a MAX OF THREE off the list below of who they know that:

  • Just inherited a home
  • Had a loved one pass away
  • Is behind on their mortgage or tax payments
  • Has a relative that can’t take care of their house anymore
  • Has a house they’re having trouble selling
  • Is facing bankruptcy
  • Knows a probate attorney
  • Knows a bankruptcy attorney
  • etc

Why only three off the list per contact? Because on average, we can only remember three things at a time. If you try to go over the whole list, you’ll lose the attention of an average person and they won’t remember anything!

It should only take you about a month or two to contact everyone on your list and then the tough part – you start all over again.

Why the repetition? Because it takes repetition for people to remember things and you have to be top-of-mind when they encounter a potential client for you!

Have you ever been to McDonalds? Of course you have! So, why is McDonalds still spending billions on advertising?

One more tip – people remember stories that trigger their emotions. So, tell a story of how you (or a fellow wholesaler) helped a seller out with their challenge(s). Change your story each month as different stories will resonate with different people AND use each story to emphasize one of your “who do you know…” questions.

As you start closing deals, you will need to reinvest your profits into mailing lists and other scalable activities to grow your business.

One last thing – we recommended you create a Status column on your spreadsheet, now we’ll explain why. If you find someone that seems to know a lot of people needing your services, wouldn’t it make sense to focus more resources on them? Conversely, you will run into people on your list that just seem to be a waste of time, so you’ll want to avoid them. So, create status codes for both of these and a few in-between codes to help you work smarter, not harder.


Hi Drew,

This is a great breakdown of why leveraging our personal network is so crucial in real estate! The numbers really drive the point home—85 people moving per year within our network is a huge opportunity that most agents and investors overlook.

I love the structured approach you laid out, especially the focus on asking for referrals instead of direct business. It makes perfect sense that people would be more open to sharing their network when they don’t feel like they’re being sold to. I also appreciate the emphasis on repetition—being top-of-mind, seen as an expert, and gaining trust is key in this business.

I will be implementing this strategy, starting with building out my Excel list and then start making those 5-10 daily calls. I’ll also start integrating more storytelling in my outreach and marketing to make it stick with people.

Thanks for sharing this—it has inspired me! I would love to connect and learn more from you!

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 23
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

Hi Zoe, welcome good for you to start early, time is the most important ingredient with investing. It's really tough to start investing when you are 60 and realize in 30 years you'll be 90 (if you are lucky). 

Now to the bad news: it is REALLY hard to be a 20yo real estate agent and make a living wage, let alone generate cash for a down payment. It's not that you would not have the skills, but most clients want to work with someone who is at least their own age. So you are fighting an uphill battle. 

Look for downhill. One thing you should always look for in life and as an investor is to use your "unfair advantages". Things that you can do or have access to that not everyone does. Not my idea, this is from RichDad, but really good advice.

I would suggest to do that on the side and think about a W2 job. It can be in the real estate industry, property management, construction, lending etc.


Hi Marcus! Thank you for the warm welcome and for the thoughtful advice! I completely agree that starting early is key to long-term success. I’ve heard a lot about the power of time in investing, and I’m definitely excited to get going now rather than waiting. I really appreciate your perspective on the challenges of being a young real estate agent. It’s true that clients often prefer working with someone their own age or with more experience, so I’ll definitely keep that in mind as I move forward. I love the idea of focusing on my “unfair advantages”—it’s such a powerful mindset. I’m definitely looking at other ways to get involved in real estate while balancing a steady income through a W2 job. I’m definitely open to exploring roles in property management, lending, and transaction coordinator to help me learn the ropes and save for a down payment. Thanks again for the insight—I’ll definitely keep this in mind as I keep moving forward!

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 23
Quote from @Chelsea DiLuzio:

Hello Zoe!

My name is Chelsea and I am new to investing as well! I just moved to Milwaukee a week ago to get started with my own real estate journey. I am from Spokane Washington, and the real estate prices there are through the roof and make it almost impossible for a new investor to get started. One of the strategies I am strongly considering for my first deal is a multifamily house hack. If you ever want to get together for coffee and bounce ideas off of each other from one newbie to another, let me know! 


Hey Chelsea!

It’s so nice to meet a fellow newbie investor in the area! I was also considering house hacking for my first property, but there are a few things holding me back from that strategy. I’m exploring a few different approaches right now, and I’d love to meet up to bounce ideas around and discuss what’s working for both of us. Let me know when you're free, and we can set something up!

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
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Quote from @Paul Novak:

Hey Zoe good to meet you.  I have been investing in real estate for a few years now and am focused in Sheboygan, about an hour north.  We aren't that big as we only have 5 properties/7 doors but it has been a great experience for us and we aren't looking back.  Since getting started we have learned a lot and have built quite a few systems and processes to increase efficiency and maintain consistency within our business.  While we aren't very big we still want to keep a professional feel with all of tenants.  Both my wife and my background is in manufacturing, specifically operations, customer service, and project/account management.  We have tried to take all the skills we have learned in our W2 carrier and apply them to our personal business.  I really love talking personal finance and real estate.  I have no issues sharing what we have learned up to this point and the work instructions / processes we have built.  If you ever have any specific questions about getting started or need to bounce some ideas off of a local investor let me know.  Good luck on getting started and welcome to BP!


 Hi Paul, it's good to meet you as well! Sheboygan is not too far from me we can potentially do business or if you ever have anyone looking for real estate in Milwaukee, Racine, Kenosha areas you can always refer them to me! Thank you for sharing your experience. It's inspiring to see how you and your wife have applied your backgrounds to build systems for your real estate business. I really admire your focus on professionalism with your tenants thats how you create a good environment! I'm very interested in your work and I will definitely reach out if I have any questions as I get started. I hope to stay connected with you, my team has monthly investor meetups if you are ever interested in joining sometime let me know! Thanks again for the encouragement and warm welcome!

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 23
Quote from @Vince Scipione:

Welcome to this amazing community. I have been a member on the forums since 2020. However I have been a podcast listener since 2011. This is platform for professionals and novice investors and you will learn a lot of valuable, hard-earned lessons in a short amount of time. I recieved my real estate license at 19 years old, and you will face difficulty in closing deals due to your age as I did. Your sphere is concerned with buying beer and cigarettes, not houses. Many clients will find it hard to trust a younger person with this big of a decision.  Its imperitive for you to not give up and get discouraged. Push through it, you may even need to have a second, consistent paying job and thats OK, until you get established. My advice is focus now on building your branding, business and client base in real estate. You need to learn how to run a business. Perhaps shadow a top producer in your office, After that stability and you have a nest egg. A team of lenders, title companies, contractors and RE attorneys, and significant knowledge of the intricacies of real estate transactions, you will be MORE than prepared to dive feet first into your first deals and will do so with CONFIDENCE. You got this!!! Welcome to BP!


 Thank you so much for the warm welcome and thoughtful advice, Vince! I really appreciate you sharing your experience and insights, especially about building trust, branding, and having a good team for support. I'll definitely be using your tips to help me grow in this industry. It's great to be part of such an encouraging community!

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
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Quote from @Rebecca Knox:

Hi Zoe,

I'm in the Milwaukee area. If you're free Feb 6th, I hope that you might be able to make it to our event: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/521/topics/1224992-brew...

Luke Nelsen will be discussing how he went from owning a duplex to owning 2 motels over the course of 4yrs. Milwaukee hard money lender, Mach1 Lending is providing free pizza :)

Hope to connect!

Hi Rebecca,

It's nice to meet you, and thank you so much for the invite! I will definitely be attending the event and am looking forward to it! I selected "going" on the facebook link, if there is anything you need from me beforehand let me know please.

Post: New Agent & Aspiring Investor

Zoe BrennanPosted
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Hi BiggerPockets,

My name is Zoe Brennan. I am 20yrs old completely new to this, and I’m just starting out in my real estate career as a newly licensed agent. I bring sales experience from selling RVs and have always been interested in real estate investing as a way to generate income and eventually achieve time and financial freedom.

I’m a Milwaukee local with a passion for real estate and currently work in the Milwaukee, Kenosha, and Racine areas. My goal is to build a portfolio of multifamily rentals. I’m focused on buy-and-hold properties, fix-and-flips, and exploring the BRRRR method. Over time, I hope to try a variety of strategies to see what works best for me as I grow.

I’m here to learn as much as possible, network with experienced investors and agents, and find business partners who share similar goals. I’m also looking for funding opportunities to help me take the next steps toward where I want to go.

Looking forward to connecting with this amazing community!