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All Forum Posts by: Zoran Stanoev

Zoran Stanoev has started 2 posts and replied 135 times.

Post: Anti-wholesalers law in Illinois.

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72
Originally posted by @John Meza:

Hello Jay Hinrrichs, Zoran Stranoev and John Thedford. Thank you for your responses. I appreciate your insight on this issue. If anything, I might have to bring in a broker and make him/her an officer in my corp.

If you do that, you'll also likely need to be licensed. A "person" can be a corporation so if the corporation is set up to engage in the business of wholesaling, all members will need to be licensed.  Make sure you talk to your attorney.  

Post: What's with the animosity towards whole-salers?

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72

@John Thedford

In your opinion, is all wholesaling bad/are all wholesalers bad? What if there is no dishonesty, full disclosure, and the assignment of a contract is marketed?

Post: How to start home flipping without much capital

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72

I don't know if you've read David Greene's BRRRR book, but I'd definitely recommend it. One of the big takeaways from it is that you start have a legit plan for saving money. Yes, there are definitely ways to get in real estate without capital, but don't ignore that aspect of it. Good luck.

Post: Anti-wholesalers law in Illinois.

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72

@Jay Hinrichs sure thing.  here goes...

protecting the consumer (sellers) from "de facto brokerages" was the main reason for the new law. licensees have to make certain disclosures that unlicensed wholesalers don't and the Realtors Assoc does not like this. they made a comment along the lines of, "we want a licensee in every transaction." They also don't like the fact that a wholesaler holds themselves out to be a buyer, but has no intention of actually buying the property or the funds to actually close. 

They pointed out that the change was not made as a new section that prohibits or bans wholesaling.  rather, the new law was included as part of the definition of what constitutes activities that fall under the purview of a broker. 

I've heard numerous ideas or strategies for how to circumvent or not fall within the new law. Some are very creative, but personally, i'd be very suspect to work with any brokerage or person stating with confidence that they have found a work around. in my opinion, unless you're licensed, you can't be sure. I think there's a lot of broad language in the act and an argument can be made that all of the new ideas and strategies violate the new law. 

The people on the call made the law and although they can and did kinda guess how it will be enforced, until the issue is before a judge, you can't be sure how it'll be applied. 

Post: Anti-wholesalers law in Illinois.

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72

@John Thedford I'm not sure how your comment helps the person that posted this question or how it's even applicable given that you're in florida and not illinois. 

@John Meza the Chicagoland Investor Empowerment Series meetup had a meeting about this last night. Joe and Dan actually had a conversation (that was recorded) with the sponsoring senator and other people involved in the passing of the new law.  It was very beneficial and learned a lot. However, it is difficult to know for sure how the law will be interpreted by the courts and how it will be enforced.  I'd definitely recommend setting up a meeting with your attorney.  Good luck.

Post: Title Search Attorney

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72
Originally posted by @Wsam Taiym:

Thank you for the useful information @Zoran Stanoev. Do you have any recommendations on any? 

sorry, but i don't have a title company to refer.  i don't buy at auctions. 

Post: Title Search Attorney

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72

Illinois uses title companies and not attorneys for closings so you'll need to build a relationship with a tittle company. make sure it's one you trust - if they've got a better relationship with someone else, they'll pass along their great finds to them.  good luck

Post: What paperwork should I bring along with a Purchase and Sale Agr.

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72

That's way too much.  You're going to scare most sellers if you put that much paperwork in front of them. If you're buying a property (i.e. putting it under contract) a Purchase and Sale Agreement is all that you need.  Anything else can be handled during the due diligence period.  Once it's under contract, it's "locked up" so then you can move forward with the other stuff if you need it.  For example, if you're paying cash, the reals for the mortgage info is not relevant. And from my experience, the credibility packer would be overkill and unnecessary.  I can't imagine that there would be anything in there that would sway them. Sometimes, looking less professional and more like an every day person is your best bet.  Don't over think it. Good luck 

Post: New Illinois WholeSale Law

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72
Originally posted by @Eric M.:
Originally posted by @Zoran Stanoev:

@Devin Howard

that's basically true. here's some more info. it was a hot topic at the local REIA's this month. This is from the CCIA. You should definitely consult with your attorney about it. The fine is substantial.

THE LAW:
ILGA.gov SB-1872 Read the new Law... pay attention to:

Page 3: "Section 1-10 (5) Whether for another or themselves, engages in a pattern of business of buying, selling, offering to buy or sell, marketing for sale, exchanging, or otherwise dealing in contracts, including assignable contracts for the purchase or sale of, or options on real estate or improvements thereon. For purposes of this definition, an individual or entity will be found to have engaged in a pattern of business if the individual or entity by itself or with any combination of other individuals or entities, whether as partners or common owners in another entity, has engaged in one or more of these practices on 2 or more occasions in any 12-month period."


What I am curious about is that entities can enter into contracts and can "wholesale" but entities can't be licensed. So if I wholesale with partners in an entity do we all have to be licensed. Can only one of us be licensed and be the one who signs the contracts? If my unlicensed partner engages in the activity of buying and selling contracts as described in the law but I sign the contract as a licensee is he still in trouble?

Its going to be interesting.

It'll definitely be interesting to see how the law is applied and enforced. If there's one thing you can be certain of, if there's a chance the state can make some money, they'll be pursuing its enforcement.  

Post: Wholesale Contract - Is this legal?

Zoran StanoevPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 72

@Thomas Moran

I can understand why you’d be a little unsettled but do your due diligence and see what happens. If there is an issue the wholesaler is hiding, you’ll find it. Obviously, if the wholesaler tries to limit your ability to conduct proper due diligence, that’s a red flag. Good luck.