Not to say the podcasts aren't very useful, but they seem to be a very new outfit that only accepts cash investments because they don't like the 'red tape' of working with  banks (aka appraisals etc) so I'd read up on people's actual experiences before pursuing that specific avenue.Of course, being the CEO of a full-service turnkey provider in Birmingham, AL, I obviously think TK is an amazing RE investment and perfect for first-timers because, as Ken correctly noted, it takes the emotion and hassle out of it.

I'd imagine the company you are working with that put you on a waiting list has a very small outfit in the Cleveland market.

Big Forestry outfit they then sent one of their guys to Mexico city to meet with a top flight lawyer there and it turned out 10k later to be a total scam..

I was in Nudges office a few years back that was or still is a big outfit.. talk about a money machine holly cow. 

Jay Hinrichs I buy cash, so working with a wholesale/HML outfit doesn't work for me.

Wondering if we should learn the bumps in the road now and try to self manage with some recommended tools or to put our property in the hands of a Vacasa/Evolve/Awning type company or maybe a professional local outfit?

With supply and demand 101, we know that is not good, especially with the Saudis not lowering their oil production.From what I've read, I expect a lot of the outfits that are fracking in Canada and the Northern states to probably file bankruptcy and be sold out, or do tremendous amounts of volume to stay afloat, worsening conditions.

I enter into a long-term lease on a commercial space, subdivide and outfit the space to accommodate a specific use, and generate positive cash flow once certain occupancy rates are achieved.I like the salon model but there are already so many in my area.

Just a heads up for a free rent source you could compare a 2bd/1ba unit being offered by a nearby apartment complex, zillows rent estimate is not too bad, and if you were looking at building a real estate team I would call a couple of property management outfits to see what they are getting for a like property. 

That being said, if you're looking at or considering adding a buy-and-hold turnkey investment to your portfolio, or just want to learn more about the model, I'm the CEO of a full service turnkey outfit down in Birmingham and I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about the niche or our market.However you decide to invest, welcome to the community!