Here’s the listing:--> https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/398-402-Boston-Post-Rd-Wa... price: $350,000My plan:Live in the smaller homeRent the larger home immediately (after light cosmetic work)Use FHA (3.5% down) + CHFA (down payment assistance)Reduce my personal housing cost as much as possibleSlowly fix my unit over timeBuild equity and eventually refinance to help fund a future businessNUMBERSPurchase Price Target:Offer target: $260,000Expected seller counter: $275,000–$300,000Currently listed at: $350,000FINANCING (FHA + CHFA)FHA 3.5% downDown payment covered by CHFA assistance programEstimated interest rate: ~6.5–7%MONTHLY PAYMENT ESTIMATES (P&I + Taxes + Insurance)At $275,000 purchase:Mortgage (P&I): ~$1,775Taxes: ~$420Insurance: ~$150--> Estimated Total: ~$2,350/monthAt $300,000 purchase:Mortgage (P&I): ~$1,940Taxes: ~$420Insurance: ~$150--> Estimated Total: ~$2,510/monthRENTAL INCOME ESTIMATE (Big House)Based on local comps:Low: $1,700/monthTypical: $1,800–$1,950/monthStrong (clean/paint/update): $2,000–$2,100/monthMY OUT-OF-POCKET HOUSING COST AFTER RENTIf I rent the big house at $1,900/month:At $275k: ~$450/monthAt $300k: ~$610/monthIf I rent at $2,000/month:At $275k: ~$350/monthAt $300k: ~$510/month(I currently pay $0 in rent living with family, so my goal is to keep my costs low while building equity.)REHAB ESTIMATESBig House (rent-ready):Cleaning + paint + small fixes: $1,000–$3,500Optional cosmetic upgrades: $2,000–$5,000Small House (my unit):Cosmetic repairs only: $500–$3,000Optional improvements (done slowly): $2,000–$7,000Major systems (worst-case ranges):Roof: $8k–$12kBoiler: $4k–$8kElectrical panel: $1,500–$4,000Plumbing repairs: $500–$2,000 typical(Inspection will tell me more.)CASH NEEDED TO CLOSEWith CHFA:Down payment: $0 out of pocketClosing costs: varies, but often reducedExpected out-of-pocket: $1,400–$1,800Inspection: $400–$600Appraisal: $500–$700MY FINANCIAL POSITION(To give you context for risk tolerance)Income: $5,000–$6,000/monthMonthly bills: ~$2,600Emergency fund: $10,000Credit: 717Access to 0% APR business credit card (likely $8k–$12k limit)Currently pay $0 rent (living with family)MY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY1.)

Quote from @Shuchi Gupta: Hi BP community,Looking for real-world experience from multifamily owners or investors who’ve done a panel upgrade.I have an 8-unit building in Santa Clara, CA, and I’ve received 3 quotes to replace the main service panel & meter bank (9 meters total, including common laundry).What differs across the bids:600A Eaton meter bank Square D panel but amp size not specifiedOne bid includes the laundry subpanelSome bids don't include permit/engineering/stucco patchingPrices range from $19K to $38K some not including permit fees.Current setup:1960s buildingGas water heatersShared laundryUpgraded kitchen appliances over timeAll tenants have window AC units, No EV chargers yetQuestions:Did you go 250A or 600A on your small multifamily upgrade?

Here’s the listing:--> https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/398-402-Boston-Post-Rd-Wa... price: $350,000My plan:Live in the smaller homeRent the larger home immediately (after light cosmetic work)Use FHA (3.5% down) + CHFA (down payment assistance)Reduce my personal housing cost as much as possibleSlowly fix my unit over timeBuild equity and eventually refinance to help fund a future businessNUMBERSPurchase Price Target:Offer target: $260,000Expected seller counter: $275,000–$300,000Currently listed at: $350,000FINANCING (FHA + CHFA)FHA 3.5% downDown payment covered by CHFA assistance programEstimated interest rate: ~6.5–7%MONTHLY PAYMENT ESTIMATES (P&I + Taxes + Insurance)At $275,000 purchase:Mortgage (P&I): ~$1,775Taxes: ~$420Insurance: ~$150--> Estimated Total: ~$2,350/monthAt $300,000 purchase:Mortgage (P&I): ~$1,940Taxes: ~$420Insurance: ~$150--> Estimated Total: ~$2,510/monthRENTAL INCOME ESTIMATE (Big House)Based on local comps:Low: $1,700/monthTypical: $1,800–$1,950/monthStrong (clean/paint/update): $2,000–$2,100/monthMY OUT-OF-POCKET HOUSING COST AFTER RENTIf I rent the big house at $1,900/month:At $275k: ~$450/monthAt $300k: ~$610/monthIf I rent at $2,000/month:At $275k: ~$350/monthAt $300k: ~$510/month(I currently pay $0 in rent living with family, so my goal is to keep my costs low while building equity.)REHAB ESTIMATESBig House (rent-ready):Cleaning + paint + small fixes: $1,000–$3,500Optional cosmetic upgrades: $2,000–$5,000Small House (my unit):Cosmetic repairs only: $500–$3,000Optional improvements (done slowly): $2,000–$7,000Major systems (worst-case ranges):Roof: $8k–$12kBoiler: $4k–$8kElectrical panel: $1,500–$4,000Plumbing repairs: $500–$2,000 typical(Inspection will tell me more.)CASH NEEDED TO CLOSEWith CHFA:Down payment: $0 out of pocketClosing costs: varies, but often reducedExpected out-of-pocket: $1,400–$1,800Inspection: $400–$600Appraisal: $500–$700MY FINANCIAL POSITION(To give you context for risk tolerance)Income: $5,000–$6,000/monthMonthly bills: ~$2,600Emergency fund: $10,000Credit: 717Access to 0% APR business credit card (likely $8k–$12k limit)Currently pay $0 rent (living with family)MY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY1.)

Realistically, I just don’t see 30 days as “medium” term, I think 30-60 days is still short term, but since legally most jurisdictions regard 30day minimum different from hotel type rentals, it’s easy, if not totally correct, to apply as a definition.  

Anyone selling $10K–$30K courses on this model is skipping the hard part: local law.Co-living can work great, but only with:proper screeningstrict house rulesweekly cleaningclear expectationscompliance with your city’s occupancy limitsThere is no legal shortcut that magically bypasses zoning + occupancy limits.If your city caps at 3 unrelated adults, the only legit ways to go above that are:Zoning for rooming / boarding houseConditional use permitsAssisted care licensing (totally different world)Converting to multi-unit legallyEverything else is “guru fantasy land.”

Totally agree with you on your thought process if yall are fighting for tenants.Jay, great question.

When we move out of the house we would expect to see a cashflow of $1100 total for both properties. 

@Mary Jay if you replaced a $700,000 property with two properties totaling only $500,000, you owed taxes on a $200,000 gain, assuming you had at least $200,000 of capital gains on the sold property.

Every deal will totally be different. 

For the past year I have been gearing up to purchase some duplexes (8 doors total over the next 2-3 years max) in the City of Rochester with the intent of working with the HCV program.