You find an incredible team, with price points that work, an ROI that meets your goals and an area that's been vetted by other investors, but you're die hard sticking with BRRRR even though it doesn't make sense here. 

.- Even though we are diehard buy and hold investors, we are opening up to fix and flip now to take advantage of the sellers market.

Still 70% Discounted.Whilst the rest of the country has gone back to the pre-GFC levels, Detroit is climbing up there.With the investments coming in, only some die-hard hardcore investors, see the glass half full,As downtown 2 bed/2bath apartments selling at 350-400K a Pop, the writing is on the wall perhaps. 

I'm die-hard Oklahoma loyal due to the stability.

Will try again for the die-hards this morning. 

I am a die hard Lowes Fan.

They're about as realistic as Die Hard 4.

But if you are a die hard buy and hold, than it's a moot point because appreciation is only valued at time of sale or equity extraction.

I am a 4th year property manager and die-hard proud Chicagoan (before you ask, I prefer deep dish pizza) I love the Chicago Bears (they suck, i know) and prefer the White Sox -hey, Cubbies, we at least won a world series THIS century.

(Old habits die hard.)There is a process to finding private lenders, mostly due to SEC regulations.