Quote from @Mike Dymski: The forums have been quiet for two years.I was in Pigeon Forge this past weekend for my son's baseball tournament. 

The NCAA headquarters are here, so we host a lot of Big 10 and other tournaments. 

It's like lending you money at a high interest rate to buy an F1 to drive in a demolition tournament .Since properties are passing 90 days on market in some area, you might try making an offer 10% than what it is listed for and see if the seller is interested. 

I'll be there for a small, private Hold-EM tournament next month.

Unlike typical 'eatertainment' venues or sports bars, this concept puts wellness, family, and active living at the center—complemented (not driven) by food, beverage, and social programming.Core FeaturesSports & Activity ZonesIndoor pickleball courts (climate controlled, 4–6 courts)Indoor/outdoor beach volleyball courts (convertible for basketball/futsal)Golf simulators & mini bowling lanesTrampoline park + gymnastics/karate zone for kids/teensWellness & RecoveryYoga, Pilates, meditation, & HIIT studiosSauna, cold plunge, cryotherapyStretch Lab–style recovery center (guided stretching sessions, memberships, group classes)Waterfall garden + relaxation space away from active sports areasFamily & CommunityDog park with outdoor games + beer garden/shaded seatingRunning/walking trail with landscaped connectionsOn-site trolley to connect 10 acres of amenitiesSignature lazy river wrapping the propertyEntertainmentLive music stage (concerts, DJs, open mics, festivals)Event lawn for community markets, tournaments, and seasonal activationsFood & BeverageFood hall with rotating local chef pods (entrepreneurship focus)Morning coffee, juice, and healthy breakfast service tied to wellness classesLiquor license for controlled, property-wide sales (alcohol as complement, not driver)Programming & ActivationA 7-day calendar ensures consistent traffic and appeal across demographics:- Mornings: wellness classes + healthy breakfast service- Afternoons: after-school clinics + corporate team sessions- Evenings: leagues, trivia, karaoke, esports, family game nights, markets- Late nights (weekends): concerts, DJ sets, festivals, after-hours crowdRevenue StreamsCourt & bay rentalsMemberships & leaguesFood & beverage sales (partnership rev share)Wellness services (stretch lab sessions, day passes, memberships)Events (concerts, markets, corporate rentals)Sponsorships & naming rightsTrampoline/fitness zone admissionsTarget MarketPrimary: Adults 25–50 seeking active, social recreation with wellness focusSecondary: Families, sports leagues, and corporate groups during daytime/weekendsTertiary: Tourism and visitor spillover from SWFL’s growing destination marketDifferentiatorsWellness + family integration (unique for this type of complex)Signature lazy river as both a wellness and entertainment attractionLocal food entrepreneurship via rotating vendorsYear-round activation calendar to ensure constant useAlcohol as complement—not driver—to active recreationClimate-controlled indoor facilities for consistent playPhasing the BuildPhase 1: Core sports courts, food hall, bar, family/kids activity zone, and event lawnPhase 2: Wellness + recovery center, simulators, bowling, dog park/beer gardenPhase 3: Lazy river, trolley service, expanded outdoor landscape, and concertsPotential Challenges to Solve EarlyZoning & Permitting: Mixed-use recreation, wellness, and entertainment will require layered approvals (PD recommended)Site Selection: Large footprint and 200–300 parking spaces required; access is criticalCapital Requirements: Likely $10M+ at full scale; partnerships or phased funding may be neededOperations: Complex amenity mix requires strong GM and specialized team leadsLand NeedsPhase 1 – Core Sports & Food Hub:- Indoor pickleball courts: 20,000–30,000 sq ft (~0.5–0.7 acres)- Beach volleyball courts: 12,000–18,000 sq ft (~0.3–0.4 acres)- Bar & rotating kitchen hall: 8,000–10,000 sq ft (~0.2 acres)- Parking: 150–200 cars (~1.5–2 acres)Total: ~3–4 acresPhase 2 – Entertainment & Wellness Expansion:- Golf simulator lounge + mini bowling: 8,000–12,000 sq ft (~0.2 acres)- Yoga/sauna/wellness center: 5,000–8,000 sq ft (~0.1–0.2 acres)- Event lawn/live music: ~0.5 acres- Additional parking: 0.5–1 acreCumulative Total: ~4.5–6 acresPhase 3 – Signature Lazy River & Enhancements:- Lazy river: 20–30 ft width x 1,000–1,500 ft (~0.75–1 acre water + deck, ~1.5 acres total)- Expanded courts/event space: ~0.5–1 acre- Landscaped greenbelt areas: ~0.5 acresCumulative Total: ~7–8.5 acres minimumWhy target 10+ acres: Provides buffer zones, future growth space, and avoids maxing out footprint too early.Zoning & Entitlement PathThis project spans several land use categories, so a Planned Development (PD/PUD) overlay is the cleanest path.

I dont always know when a baseball or softball tournament is happening, meaning a lot of families coming down to rent and thus I should raise my prices.

I guess sports tournaments or other festivals/events/weddings.   

The Professional Pickle Ball Association is hosting their 2nd tournament in Bristol this year.

They're usually larger families or groups of friends in town visiting local family, attending university-related events (medical school, football games), or here for youth sports tournaments.

I can't say it's been lucrative but I don't sponsor any tournaments and I don't tell everyone I meet that I'm in RE or about any of the other businesses I own unless it came up organically.