Gross Profits Soar To 80%, Fixing and Flipping in These Cities.

Gross Profits Soar To 80%, Fixing and Flipping in These Cities.

Investor · Los Angeles CA · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 5 votes

Not every house makes a good flip. Just because a home is selling for a rock-bottom price doesn’t mean you can put money in it and automatically make a fortune. Check these cities out for your next Fix n' Flip...

According to Fortune, in 2016, flippers in the following cities saw gross profits of 80% or more of the price they paid for their homes:

East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania (212.1%)

Reading, Pennsylvania (136.4%)

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (126.8%)

Flint, Michigan (105.8%)

New Haven, Connecticut (104.8%)

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (103.7%)

New Orleans, Louisiana (97.6%)

Cincinnati, Ohio (88.5%)

Buffalo, New York (85.1%)

Cleveland, Ohio (83.8%)

Jacksonville, Florida (81.8%)

Baltimore, Maryland (80.8%)

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Investor · Fort Washington, MD · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
7y

No doubt. In Baltimore you can pick something up for 20k and may sell it for 60k, but you had to put 55k in just to get it to the market. 

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  • Investor · Fort Washington, MD · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    Some of those sound nice, especially 212%. I mean if that is the average a lot should be doing well. However, I need to know how much is being netted. There are plenty of people with homes selling for more than 100 percent of what they acquired it for but are netting zero, and underwater in some instances. 

  • Investor · Los Angeles CA · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    I agree @Mark Cruse . Net profit is always important to know. 

  • Investor · Fort Washington, MD · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    No doubt. In Baltimore you can pick something up for 20k and may sell it for 60k, but you had to put 55k in just to get it to the market. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Edward Jones:

    Not every house makes a good flip. Just because a home is selling for a rock-bottom price doesn’t mean you can put money in it and automatically make a fortune. Check these cities out for your next Fix n' Flip...

    According to Fortune, in 2016, flippers in the following cities saw gross profits of 80% or more of the price they paid for their homes:

    East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania (212.1%)

    Reading, Pennsylvania (136.4%)

    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (126.8%)

    Flint, Michigan (105.8%)

    New Haven, Connecticut (104.8%)

    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (103.7%)

    New Orleans, Louisiana (97.6%)

    Cincinnati, Ohio (88.5%)

    Buffalo, New York (85.1%)

    Cleveland, Ohio (83.8%)

    Jacksonville, Florida (81.8%)

    Baltimore, Maryland (80.8%)

    In the flipping game all of us who've been doing it awhile have lost money on a deal here & there. Even on deals with huge spreads. One time I flipped a house that I paid $91k for and sold for $240k, but lost money. Hit us with the NET profits.

  • Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2018 · 34 posts · 16 votes
    7y

    @James Wise...Can you share what happened and how you lost money?

  • Investor · Los Angeles CA · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    I definitely want to get into the Baltimore market soon.  

  • Investor · Los Angeles CA · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    Yes. Please share. I'm interested to know where all that profit went? @James Wise 

  • Investor · Fort Washington, MD · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    The list is unlimited where profit can go. I could write a book on it. Typically the main things you can lose profit on has to do with underestimating the cost of renovation; unforeseen things that arise; holding costs; or not accurately understand the market. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Sean Richards:

    @James Wise...Can you share what happened and how you lost money?

    Oh yea, stay tuned...............

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    “Gross profit”...spread between buying price and selling price.... a totally useless number that means nothing.

  • Contractor · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Edward Jones

    A report from 2016 on flipping means nothing for 2019....data is 3 years old...?

  • Real Estate Broker · Bay Area · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    This is how data is skewed. 2016 is a different market place what do flippers making 80%+ at that time do for me today?   I know for me if there is an article on Fortune magazine talking about 2016 and it's 2019 it's over for those returns.  As the old saying in stock investing, you don't look at the front page on the WallStreet Journal for the next big idea you look at the back pages. 

  • Property Manager · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    @Edward Jones I live in Buffalo and have commercial and residential plumbing experience. I also have home renovations experience. I’m looking for investors interested in the buffalo area that need my time and skills. I’ve been running some numbers on property in the south buffalo to Ellicottville NY area, maybe be can partner up and I can run some air bnb rentals right by the holiday valley ski resort?

  • Investor · Los Angeles CA · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    @Ryan Greene My focus is funding deals now. Are you trying to purchase property for air bnb?

  • Real Estate Agent · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    I think we can all agree that it has become more competitive and margins are tightening.

    Profitability is determined by the 4 horsemen

    Roof 

    Plumbing 

    Electric

    A/C Heat

    They don't necessarily sell the house, but will keep it from getting financed and ultimately closing.  Further, the system prices continue to escalate at the same pace as home prices.  

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