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Chris Miller
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Cashout Refinance Subject TO

Chris Miller
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  • Hampton, VA
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  • I Bought a house subject to 6 months ago. Closed at a title company I Have the deed I own the house I am looking to pay off the existing mortgage that is not mine. I am looking to do a cash out refinance. Can this still be done now? I am having a hard time in my area with lenders understanding what I am trying to do. One stated continuity of obligation issue the other said I have to have 6 months to a year payment history. Can I refinance? As I plan to keep this property as owner occupied now that I fixed it up. Thanks 
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    Originally posted by @Chris Miller:
    • I Bought a house subject to 6 months ago. Closed at a title company I Have the deed I own the house I am looking to pay off the existing mortgage that is not mine. I am looking to do a cash out refinance. Can this still be done now? I am having a hard time in my area with lenders understanding what I am trying to do. One stated continuity of obligation issue the other said I have to have 6 months to a year payment history. Can I refinance? As I plan to keep this property as owner occupied now that I fixed it up. Thanks 

     There ARE continuity of obligation rules that your subject to since you're considering a refinance and you're not Obligated on the current underlying mortgage (subject-to mortgage from seller).

    The rule states that if you dont qualify for one of the rules under COB that your maximum LTV is limited to 50% LTV for all refinances within 24 months from the date of acquisition. You can cash out after 6 months from date of acquisition, but only up to the limited LTV restriction of 50%. Unless there is significant equity in the property 50% LTV may not be enough to payoff the current underlying mortgage.

    Now here are the exceptions to lift the COB 50% limited LTV restriction:

    - you inherit the property and it was transferred into your name either via legal award from a domestic partnership/marriage 

    - you have been on title for 24 + months

    - you took title to the property that was transferred from a partnership or partnership like entity (LLC, LP, etc) that you can document the ownership of 25% or more in

    - you lived in the property and have been on title for atleast 12 months as a primary residence

    - you have paid the mortgage for atleast 12 months 

    - or you can demonstrate a relationship with the obligator (domestic partner, relative, family member, etc. )

    If you qualify for one of the exceptions you are not limited to the 50% max LTV when considering fannie/freddie conventional cash out refinances on a subject to transaction. The most relevant exceptions are the last three above in bold.

    Theres a lot of noise about the topic and its very confusing but the above are the actual rules atleast regarding conventional fannie/freddie financing. 

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