FHA asking from my buyer for a second appraisal. Is that true?

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FHA asking from my buyer for a second appraisal. Is that true?

Doron Rice
Closter, NJ · Member since 2015 · 72 posts · 19 votes

Hi all,

I am in contract to sell a property I rehabed. The closing was suppose to be today, December 22nd and at the last minute the buyer's loan officer told us that because it is a flip and because the buyer is using an FHA loan, FHA requires a second appraisal. Me and my agent never heard of such a thing. Did anyone had experiance with such a case?

Thanks!

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Melvin ListBusiness Member
Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 381 votes
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@Doron Rice yes if the property was purchased 91-180 ago.  The LO should have known this from day 1

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  • Kyle Boughton
    Investor · Arcata, CA · Member since 2015 · 76 posts · 34 votes
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    When was the 1st appraisal done?

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  • Melvin ListBusiness Member
    Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 381 votes
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    @Doron Rice yes if the property was purchased 91-180 ago.  The LO should have known this from day 1

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  • Russell BrazilBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
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    Yes...you should always expect a 2nd appraisal requirement with a flip, whether it is FHA, VA, Conventional. Happens all the time. Id ballpark it at about a third of flips end up needing the 2nd appraisal.

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  • Harjeet BhattiPro Member
    Lender · Glenview IL- CDLP NMLS#230554 · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 747 votes
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    This is FHA rule for flip transaction 91-180 days. I never see any problem with 2nd appraisal.

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  • Doron Rice
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    Closter, NJ · Member since 2015 · 72 posts · 19 votes
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    Thank you all for your feedback! I wasn't aware of that but I guess the LO should have order a 2nd appraisal immediately and not after closing date.

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  • Doron Rice
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    Closter, NJ · Member since 2015 · 72 posts · 19 votes
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    Originally posted by @Kyle Boughton:

    When was the 1st appraisal done?

     1st Appraisal was about a month ago.

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  • Kyle Boughton
    Investor · Arcata, CA · Member since 2015 · 76 posts · 34 votes
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    Interesting information! Have never came across a 2nd appraisal being needed on my flips where the buyer financed through an FHA.

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  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Kyle Boughton:

    Interesting information! Have never came across a 2nd appraisal being needed on my flips where the buyer financed through an FHA.

    I'm guessing that your flips don't go up in value by 100% with rehabs done that quickly (or the ones that do go to non-FHA buyers), or you would have. :)

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  • Wayne Brooks
    Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
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    Yep, it's required with FHA if your sales price is 100% or more greater than your purchase price. Otherwise, the "91 to 180 day" requirement for this went away years ago.

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  • Cara Lonsdale
    Realtor and Investor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Ug.  So add another week to your closing date.  With the holidays, this appraisal won't be in until mid week IF your lucky AND the LO put a rush on it.

    Best of Luck To You!

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  • Brian Pulaski
    Flipper/Rehabber · Montgomery, NY · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    I haven't seen two appraisals. On my FHA sale it was about 4 months from my buy to my sell. Buy was $80k sell was $145k (so not 100%). I did a VA in 3 months buy price was $91.5k sale at $250k, but only one appraisal. None of the conventional sales have had two appraisals. I have heard the seller has to pay for the second one, is this correct?

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  • Wayne Brooks
    Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
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    yep.

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  • Zachary Wilson
    Pueblo, CO · Member since 2012 · 54 posts · 32 votes
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    Just went through this man!!! And gosh dang it was annoying! This was a flip house and I️ did pretty well on it. Put the property on the market after rehab and received an offer in two days. Inspection went fine and appraisal went fine. Well literally 8 days before closing the bank orders a second appraisal because of the large spread of what I purchased for and what I’m selling for. Appraisal did come in at the same appraisal but it was a little scary.
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  • Zachary Wilson
    Pueblo, CO · Member since 2012 · 54 posts · 32 votes
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    Glad to know all this info now guys! Thanks to all that posted! Especially the mortgage guys! All good to know for future flips
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  • Michael Noto
    Real Estate Agent · Southington, CT · Member since 2008 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    @Doron Rice Your loan officer and both agents involved should have known this was coming when you signed with a FHA buyer.

    It will just delay things a couple weeks. In most cases nothing to worry about.

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