VA Home Loan

VA Home Loan

San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 2 posts · 0 votes

Any Vets have any experience buying a place with VA home loan with the intent to occupy that home and not end up moving in?

If so, I'd love to hear your story. Did you end up renting it out? Sell it?

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Real Estate Broker · Pueblo, CO · Member since 2013 · 368 posts · 303 votes
12y

Yea, I'm in the same boat as you Jeremy. I've been looking in to this and I'd say "occupy" it. For example, if you bought a 3 bed SFR with the VA loan but had absolutely no intention of living there, place a bed and a small wardrobe in one room, shut the door and rent it out as a 2 bed SFR. I'd also ensure that your mail is sent to that address. With that said you can kill 2 birds by picking up your rent check from the tenant and your mortgage.

No legal advice here, just my thoughts.

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  • Lender · Plano, TX · Member since 2013 · 312 posts · 71 votes
    12y

    That isn't legal my friend. VA loans are for owner occupants only. If they find out you aren't living in the home, they can call your loan.

  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2013 · 65 posts · 11 votes
    12y

    If you lived in the property for one good solid year, then you should be fine if you decide to move out and rent it out. At least that's what I've been told.

  • Real Estate Broker · Orange, CA · Member since 2008 · 380 posts · 87 votes
    12y

    you don't want to go down that road, occupancy fraud. I just got a call the other day from a friend who called me in a panic seeing if I could help his in-law and that a mortgage investigator showed up at the door they did a loan as owner occupied when there was a tennant in the property.

  • Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    @Jeremy Sebes

    If you are active military and you have official orders changing your permanent duty station more than 50 miles away, you can leave a VA financed owner occupied house before the first year is completed.

    Otherwise VA mortgages are only for owner occupied residence, though you may but an apartment with up to 4 units, as long as you owner occupy one of the units.

  • San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    12y

    Thanks Gentlemen, its always good to do things right.

  • Real Estate Broker · Pueblo, CO · Member since 2013 · 368 posts · 303 votes
    12y

    Yea, I'm in the same boat as you Jeremy. I've been looking in to this and I'd say "occupy" it. For example, if you bought a 3 bed SFR with the VA loan but had absolutely no intention of living there, place a bed and a small wardrobe in one room, shut the door and rent it out as a 2 bed SFR. I'd also ensure that your mail is sent to that address. With that said you can kill 2 birds by picking up your rent check from the tenant and your mortgage.

    No legal advice here, just my thoughts.

  • Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    I'd seriously reconsider your idea @Chris Pasternak . While that sounds like it complies in that you're "occupying" by doing that and getting your mail there, your intentions are to not actually live there. And yes your intentions are what will get you for mortgage fraud.

    It is different if you intend to live there and can show circumstances that prevented that like a PCS or some other unforseen situation. That is what they would look at is that it was previously unforseen and unintended for you to move prior to purchasing the property.

  • Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    @Chris Pasternak

    What you propose is a Federal criminal act and the punishment is up to 5 years in jail and a $250,000 fine. Do you feel lucky?

  • Investor · Lafayette/Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 915 votes
    12y
    Jeremy Sebes we served our country to earn this benefit. You will only bring dishonor to your service to try to pull off that "2BR scheme" suggested above. Maintain your integrity and find another way to finance your deal if you aren't going to really occupy the property.
  • Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    @Robert Leonard

    amen or should I say Ooh Rah

  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA · Member since 2013 · 58 posts · 9 votes
    12y
    Hi Jeremy Sebes , I'm also a veteran. I used my VA loan to purchase my current rental property. I lived in the house for 3 years before using my wife's VA loan to buy my current home. So, yes if you first own and occupy your home the VA will allow you to buy another home and rent your other home. My entire transaction was done with the blessing of the VA. I would suggest that you live in the home for a few years and then you can buy another and not get into any hot water. Hope this helps.
  • Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    You must live in the home for one full year before you can fully rent it out and declare that home as rental income. After that year, you can use your VA home loan to purchase another home. Then repeat the process.

    For example: Buy a 3 bed home and rent out the two rooms while you occupy the other room for a year. After that year, use your VA loan to purchase another home. Fully rent out the previous home while you occupy the second home and repeat the process.

  • Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Zach Perez there is a limit based on your eligibility. Say your eligibility was for $500,000 and you used $230,000 of it on the first house you only have $270,000 left for second or third purchase until the first VA mortgage is either paid off or assumed by ANOTHER Vet using his or her eligibility.

  • Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @David Krulac You're correct. I forgot to mention the eligibility limit. To clear up more room for the eligibility, you can refinance the first home you purchased under a va and convert it to a conventional loan or save enough money to put down on future purchases after using up your va loan eligibility. 

  • Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Zach Perez I assumed a VA mortgage and I think I bought 8 houses with VA mortgages, and I bought 12 house from the VA, so I have some familarity with the program.

  • Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @David Krulac Thanks David.. You're definitely a good source to have on here

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