Financing a $60k Property...literally the WORST!

Financing a $60k Property...literally the WORST!

Dallas, TX · Member since 2015 · 46 posts · 12 votes

I'm not sure if anyone of you high rollers have run into this problem, but getting a mortgage on a $60k rental property is brutal!  Investment properties usually require AT LEAST 20% down so that makes my loan $48k, and many require 25% which puts it at $45k.  Most banks won't touch anything under $100k, and even the ones who do have a floor of $50k for their loan amount. Naturally, I've contacted several Credit Unions and even a lot of them cap it at $50k and I've only been able to find 1 or two that will do less, but the rates leave much to be desired.  

The house is a 3 bed 2 bath half duplex, selling for $60k and can rent as-is for $900 easily and up to $1100 with about $10k in repairs.  All in, I'd be looking at ~$350 a month of cash flow if I could get a solid 30 year mortgage on a $48k loan, unfortunately, that's easier said than done. 

I was wondering if any of you guys had advise for a newbie like me in this situation (having only $20k to invest with really limits my options on this one).  I'm in the Dallas area, so if you know any good local banks or credit unions, I'd certainly appreciate that too. 

Seems like this price range is a cash-buyers market unfortunately.  

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
10y

@Kelton Johnson   here's something creative.

simply pay 2k more for it so you can get the loan you want.. only affect your cash flow by 10 bucks maybe... and you get the deal instead of missing it... seems logical to me.

these rates are not going to be around a lot longer so why quibble over 2k when you will make that up in the first year in cash flow.

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  • Derwood, MD · Member since 2013 · 16 posts · 8 votes
    10y

    @Kelton Johnson

    Try Embrace Home Loans,

    2 years ago, I financed a 55k rental property in Baltimore City using them. They are a national lender.  

     30 year conventional mortgage at 4.75%.

    20% down

     Send me a PM and I can give you the name of the loan officer I used. (Great guy and can close any loan) 

  • Rental Property Investor · Waldorf, MD · Member since 2015 · 155 posts · 76 votes
    10y

    @Garrett Fulton Thats exactly what I'm looking for. Can you pm me their contact info as well? 

  • Investor · Schaumburg, IL · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 16 votes
    10y

    @Kelton Johnson

    Have you tried to post the deal at BP Marketplace? 

    Maybe there'll be some private money lenders on the site interested in funding your long term note.

  • Investor · Sachse, TX · Member since 2015 · 223 posts · 66 votes
    10y

    @Kelton Johnson

    I recommend the BRRR strategy. Look for other properties with better equity. If you can get a refinance loan for 80% then you can pay more then me for property. :)

    I would look for off market FSBO or wholesalers. Just make sure you know the area well and don't over pay. Even if you bought a property at 75%ARV you could come out of pocket less then the 20K.

    Also, the 5% doesn't sound bad to me. Will you share what bank offered that to you?

    If you need any more help feel free to reach out. I will help you any way I can.

    Chance  

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    10y

    It is refreshing to see @Jay Hinrichs getting so many votes with his 2k idea. 2k over 30 years is an irrelevant amount of money but I have seen many investors kill deals over that amount, AND LESS! Do that to your agent once or twice and suddenly your agent is very hard to get ahold of.

    @Kelton Johnson here are 3 lenders from 3 different banks who will lend in the sub 50k space. They do most of the 50 states but I can't guarantee they all will do Texas but it should be a good start for you on your search for sub 50k lenders.

    Larry Heydon, Citizens Bank

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    Ken Kopp, VanDyk Mortgage

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    @Jerry Padilla, MB Financial Bank

  • Adrian StamerPro Member
    Real Estate Investor & Agent · Richmond, VA · Member since 2013 · 319 posts · 167 votes
    10y

    find a small local bank that'll do 80% of total cost and get them to roll your $10k construction costs to improve the property in. Will solve both your problems and you will come out ahead property value and cash flow wise 

  • Severna Park, MD · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Charlie Fitzgerald:

    I like the 15 year deal a lot better.  I also do not recommend pulling HELOCs on personal property to buy business purpose rentals real estate and if you tell the banks you are doing that, they don't either.  Keep your personal assets separate. 

    Thats what i have mu HELOC for , the last 2 deals I did , settlement was in 7 days . No time to do the bank or loan thing . They were great deals that needed work and woudnt qualify for a loan . Bought fast , rehabbed just as fast , refinanced and paid off HELOC in 3 months both times . Its a great tool

  • Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2015 · 306 posts · 211 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Kelton Johnson:

    @Charlie Fitzgerald

    Yeah the best I heard was 20% down  @ 3.375% for a 15 year term, 3k closing costs, and no escrow.  Do you like that better than 20-25% down @ 4.25-4.5% for a 30 year term? It eats away about $100 in cashflow but still leaves me around $200 or so a month and obviously helps a ton with equity. 

    Finally, a person in here quoting realistic interest rates! I keep hearing online (I know most internet quotes are bogus but I'm sure you've heard this too): "Oh, you can get a 3.75%" And, I will say, the week I went under contract that is not what I got. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2014 · 308 posts · 144 votes
    10y

    I buy my properties through a commercial lender, but they are residential properties.  Try checking them out?  I've financed as little as $18k through them.

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2016 · 42 posts · 6 votes
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    @Kelton Johnson

    That's a good point. If that is a factor I would suggest finding a crowdfunding portal that can provide proof of funds for the purchase of the property in advance of the actual crowdfunding.

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