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Helpful Investor Tax Return Hints

Andrew Postell
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Posted Jan 30 2017, 13:22

Today you are going to get some really important “behind-the-scenes” information on how a bank examines your tax returns. Often we submit our application for a conventional loan to a bank, someone tells us that it’s with an “underwriter”, and a few days later they tell us “yes” or “no”. If you are lucky they will tell you some generic response but no one tells you how they came to their conclusion. Today that will change! You will know exactly how a bank reviews specific areas of your tax returns!

For a Conventional/FHA/VA Loan taxes play a large role in calculating the income of an investor. One challenge that investors often face is our taxable income. Sometimes our taxable income can be $0; and that's kind of the point of being an investor! Portfolio loans do not weigh tax returns as heavily as a conventional loan but portfolio loans also carry a higher rate, or they might have a balloon payment, etc. If we want to best, most favorable long term loan that we can find we should try our best to qualify for a conventional loan first. But there are some very specific strategies in using your tax returns to your advantage to help better qualify for a loan. Here's what I mean:

If you are using a Schedule C in your personal tax returns there are 4 important items to be aware of when a bank calculates your income.

Schedule C

  • Depreciation (Line 13/14) – can be added BACK as income
  • Business Use of Home (Line 30) – can be added BACK as income
  • Vehicle Miles (Line 44A) – can be added BACK as income
  • Un-allowed Meals and Entertainment (Line 24B) – is subtracted FROM your income

So, if your Schedule C taxable income is $0 (line 31) but your depreciation is $10,000 then your actual income is $10,000! Your deductions can actually help you in getting qualified!

Those 4 areas may not sound like rocket science but attached to this post (at the top) is an example of an individual’s tax returns. On their tax returns they had Line 44A blank, so essentially $0…but then later on they listed vehicle miles in a separate line item. The tax advantage by listing it in one section as opposed to another is the same but now the method by which you qualify for a loan is at risk. Your loan officer has to go and convince an underwriter to use your business mileage if it’s not in Line 44A. Frankly, it’s an easy argument. That is, if your loan officer was good enough to detect it. The person’s tax return example here was a 300 page document. Why even risk someone not finding it or having the argument made to the underwriter not being heard? Just enter it in the section 44A and you will be safe and making your deductions work FOR you!

Ready for some more? Here’s Schedule E:

Schedule E

  • Depreciation (Line 18) – can be added BACK
  • Casualty Loss/Amortization/One-Time Expenses/HOA Dues (line 19) - can be added BACK
  • Insurance (line 9) – Added Back
  • Mortgage Interest (Line 12) – Added Back
  • Taxes (Line 16) – Added Back

And this is why owning property is such a great method of building wealth. Nearly all of your normal expenses on a property can be deducted from your TAXABLE income but added BACK to your qualifying income for a conventional loan!

BUT THERE IS A REALLY IMPORTANT TRAP TO SEE WITH SCHEDULE E:  your Schedule E returns have a line item of "Cleaning and Maintenance" (line 7), "Repairs" (line 14), and "Other" (line 19).  This is where it becomes really important to work with a CPA that understands investment properties.  Because if you just rehabed your property, is that a "One-Time Expense", "Repair", "Other" or partly "Cleaning and Maintenance" since you had to clean everything?  What about replacing the roof?  What about if your tenant moved out and you have to do some work because they trashed the property? If your tax professional doesn't know these rules get these to him/her asap!

Ready for some others? How about a S-Corp?

S-Corp

  • W2 income – that’s easy, you probably understood that your W2 income can be added BACK
  • K-1 income (box 1 & 2) – also pretty self-explanatory, but just in case, it’s added BACK
  • Amortization/Casualty Loss – Added BACK
  • Depreciation 1120s (line 14 & 15) – Added Back

However….

  • Mortgage Notes, bonds payable in less than 1 year (Schedule L, line 17)- this is SUBTRACTED from your income
  • Meals & Entertainment (Schedule M1, Line 3b) – SUBTRACTED from your income
  • Non re-occurring Other Income (1120s line 5) – SUBTRACTED from your income

Partnerships

  • W2, K1 (box 1,2, & 4), Depreciation (line 16A & 17), Amortization/Casualty Loss – all added BACK
  • Non re-occurring Other Income, Meals and Entertainment, Mortgage Notes payable in less than 1 year, AND Ordinary income from Other (1065 line 4) – all SUBTRACTED from your income

I certainly hope that some of what is contained here helps your understanding of what goes on behind the "veil of underwriting". If the concept of information makes you powerful hopefully this helps you flex those powerful muscles some.  If you have questions about these items please feel free to ask.

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