Flip to Yourself? Profitable or not?

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My Partner and I are just getting started in the investment part of Real Estate. We recently attended a free seminar by KeySpire's Scott Mcgillvray in Tampa Florida. We received a lot of good, basic information but, what stood out to us the most was the "Flip to Yourself." model. I'm sure the actual way of flipping has been around forever, but that was his trademarked phrase. Basically, you purchase a home (with any financing), repair or renovate, and then sell it...to yourself at maximum appraised value. According to the model, you keep the property, turn a profit on the flip, you don't pay taxes since it was not a transaction between two entities and the closing, holding and financing fees are cheaper. It sounds like a savvy way to maximizing your profits. (remember I am brand new in this world, be gentle)

Has any one bought and held properties using this method?

How did you sell it back to yourself? Refinance?

Did you use a real estate agent?

Sounds like it's simply a refinance out of a rehab loan. Search BRRRR, it is exactly what you are talking about, when it comes to rental properties.

I agree with Jason. I'm not sure how the sale would be beneficial, especially since it doesn't met "arms reach" requirements. Are you selling it from an LLC to you personally? I'm pretty sure there's tax consequences there.

I'm not sure if you're quoting the details right, but as you've stated, it doesn't make much sense. You can't sell a property to yourself (I'd love to see the title company's reaction when they go to receipt that contract! :), or even from yourself to/from your entity. But it does sort of sound like what's described on this site as a BRRRR method: Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat. It's not a sales transaction, but a refinance transaction that puts money in your pocket. The refi proceeds are not taxable, there are of course no agents involved to pay, though of course you'll pay the lender fees.

Does that sound like what you had in mind?

@Brad Shepherd Yes. That's it, perfectly explained. Since it was the free seminar we were only given the summary of how the transaction works. None of the actual details. His words were " you sell it to yourself for the highest appraised value." Which is what was confusing for all of us newbies in attendants. 

Right on. Yes, just do a search on here for BRRR and you'll find tons of articles. Brandon Turner wrote a great summary (https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2015/04/20/how-to-100000-dollars-year-real-estate/), this is a great write upf (https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/brrrr-buyrehabrentrefinancerepeatprimer/), and several of the podcast guests dive into this. We've done several so far and will close on two more on Friday. It's a great tool to have in your arsenal.

BP even has a BRRR calculator. Keep this handy: https://www.biggerpockets.com/brrrr-calculator

Do you mean that you refinance it? That is basically the BRRRR strategy, which I'm a huge fan of. But actually selling it to yourself doesn't seem to serve any purpose.

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