Building New Single Family Homes As Rentals

Building New Single Family Homes As Rentals

Developer · Orlando, FL · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 5 votes

Attention all readers:  Could you please give me your thoughts/feedback on the following idea?

I have been building new single family homes for investors. I wanted to find a way that I could boost my investors returns but still keep it attractive for my construction business to make a profit.  

So my idea in summary is:

  1. Builder finds lot for investor for 25k (I currently own 20 and have access to 350 more)
  2. Investor buys lot, secures financing, and hires the builder to build the house on the investor’s lot for $170k.
  3. When the construction loan has been paid off and the certificate of occupancy has been issued, builder then pays $29,250 (75% of Investor’s down payment) to investor for 15% stake in the property.  This leaves the investor with only $12k invested after closing costs.
  4. Builder and investor enter partnership, rent property for $1600, covering expenses and also putting money in their pockets each month.

End result: Investor owns brand new $210k appreciating investment property that cash flows over $200/month for $12,250

See below for examples on deals.

Example 1 - A traditional investment property sale on a new construction

  • Retail Value: $210k
  • Sales price: $195k
  • Loan Amount: $156k
  • Down Payment: $39k
  • Closing Costs: $2.5k
  • Total Cash Invested: $41.5k
  • Rental Rate: $1600/mo
  • Operating Expenses: $503/mo
  • Mortgage Payment: $857/mo
  • Cash Flow: $240/mo
  • Cap Rate: 6.75%
  • Cash on cash return: 6.94%

Example 2 - Okay now this is how the numbers look for the investor in my Partnership Program

  • Retail Value: $210k
  • Sales price: $195k
  • Loan Amount: $156k
  • Down Payment: $9,750 ($29,250 was paid by the builder after closing for a 15% stake in the home)
  • Closing Costs: $2.5k
  • Total Cash Invested: $12,250
  • Rental Rate: $1600/mo
  • Operating Expenses: $503/mo
  • Mortgage Payment: $857/mo
  • Cash Flow: $240/mo
  • Investor’s 85% Share: $204/mo
  • Cap Rate: 6.75%
  • Cash on cash return: 20%

Any readers - please let me know your thoughts on this idea.

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
7y

have no Idea why you would think this is a good deal for you.. unless your backing in a huge profit on the build side and using that profit for your kick back to the buyer.. 

15% of a rental property is not nearly enough to take on all that risk.. 

plus your insurance I am sure is way low. 

Just build them and sell them and make your profit .. and if you want to keep some keep some.. why complicate it with investors.. I just don't see how this would be remotely worth your time and effort.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Boise/Portland · Member since 2017 · 709 posts · 742 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Brock Holliman:

    Attention all readers:  Could you please give me your thoughts/feedback on the following idea?

    I have been building new single family homes for investors. I wanted to find a way that I could boost my investors returns but still keep it attractive for my construction business to make a profit.  

    So my idea in summary is:

    1. Builder finds lot for investor for 25k (I currently own 20 and have access to 350 more)
    2. Investor buys lot, secures financing, and hires the builder to build the house on the investor’s lot for $170k.
    3. When the construction loan has been paid off and the certificate of occupancy has been issued, builder then pays $29,250 (75% of Investor’s down payment) to investor for 15% stake in the property.  This leaves the investor with only $12k invested after closing costs.
    4. Builder and investor enter partnership, rent property for $1600, covering expenses and also putting money in their pockets each month.

    End result: Investor owns brand new $210k appreciating investment property that cash flows over $200/month for $12,250

    See below for examples on deals.

    Example 1 - A traditional investment property sale on a new construction

    • Retail Value: $210k
    • Sales price: $195k
    • Loan Amount: $156k
    • Down Payment: $39k
    • Closing Costs: $2.5k
    • Total Cash Invested: $41.5k
    • Rental Rate: $1600/mo
    • Operating Expenses: $503/mo
    • Mortgage Payment: $857/mo
    • Cash Flow: $240/mo
    • Cap Rate: 6.75%
    • Cash on cash return: 6.94%

    Example 2 - Okay now this is how the numbers look for the investor in my Partnership Program

    • Retail Value: $210k
    • Sales price: $195k
    • Loan Amount: $156k
    • Down Payment: $9,750 ($29,250 was paid by the builder after closing for a 15% stake in the home)
    • Closing Costs: $2.5k
    • Total Cash Invested: $12,250
    • Rental Rate: $1600/mo
    • Operating Expenses: $503/mo
    • Mortgage Payment: $857/mo
    • Cash Flow: $240/mo
    • Investor’s 85% Share: $204/mo
    • Cap Rate: 6.75%
    • Cash on cash return: 20%

    Any readers - please let me know your thoughts on this idea.

     What are the PM fees?  Why are the Operating Expenses: $503/mo on a brand new house?  Who's name is the mortgage in?  What's the partnership agreement look like?  What's the exit plan for the investor?

  • Developer · Orlando, FL · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    Hey Matthew, 

    Please see below for a brief breakdown of the fees along with a response to your other questions.

    Property ExpensesMonthlyAnnually
    Management Fees$128$1,536
    Property Taxes$208.33$2,500
    Insurance$50$600
    Repairs/Maintenance$48$576
    HOA Fees$21$252
    Vacancy Losses$48$576
    Operating Expenses$503.33$6,040
    • The mortgage would be in the name of both the investor and the builder with the investor being the guarantor.  
    • The deed would be in the name of "Investor" 85%, "Builder" 15%
    • Partnership agreement would be pretty basic.  But here are some key points that I would like to add:
      • The builder will handle dealing with the property manager
      • Builder will verify tenant screenings 
      • Builder will choose all paint and finish choices on property (Because I have a vested interest in the property, I would like to go with my proven strategy on colors and finish selections.  I am very experienced on picking finishes that attract higher rental prices, longer term leases, that result in higher returns.)
      • Investor can buy out Builder's 15% share for 15% of reasonable market value, minus any anticipated closing costs and sales expenses (realtor fees, attorney fees, etc.) after 10 years
  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    As an investor with the mindset that you make your money when you buy, I would pass on this deal. New construction is great for end users but not most investors. 

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    7y

    have no Idea why you would think this is a good deal for you.. unless your backing in a huge profit on the build side and using that profit for your kick back to the buyer.. 

    15% of a rental property is not nearly enough to take on all that risk.. 

    plus your insurance I am sure is way low. 

    Just build them and sell them and make your profit .. and if you want to keep some keep some.. why complicate it with investors.. I just don't see how this would be remotely worth your time and effort.

  • Member since 2018 · 64 posts · 45 votes
    7y
    @Brock Holliman $600 /year for insurance on a new $210k rental property ? My man, please send me your Brokers information.
  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    7y

    Rent is too low on a property worth 210K. Expenses on a new property will initially be lower but that catches up with you in time. With the market starting at $1600 you will not be able to keep up. Best to sell to actiual home buyers.

    If you are dead set on selling to investors build purpose built multi unit rentals. Triplex or foreplex.

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