Who has really bought a MF themselves?

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I have bought SFR only thus far and made a-lot progress in my opinion. I see folks recommending MF books, training and etc and tooting MF. The best I can tell 9.99% of the folks talking about MF have NEVER DONE IT Themselves with MF.

Why recommend a book or training, etc if it never produced and results other than motivational information? If the teachings were so clear why no results? 

It would be good to hear from some first generation real estate investors that actually has done MF themselves. I noticed some extra young looking person say (they) had a 89 unit MF. Is (they) them and their spouse or them and their rich dad that had been investing for years before the son took credit or is they an investment pool where the person talking big only contributed a very small part?

I’m not trying to be negative, because I really do want to move into MF. I think it would be clarifying if more people that says, “buy MF” where ask if they themselves had bought one.


Updated over 1 year ago

Instead of 9.99% I meant 99.9% of folks that say buy multi family have never bought a MF themselves. Of course, this is just my opinion.

Updated over 1 year ago

99.9%

Joel:

I've invested in 9 apartments passively and my wife and I are syndicators of a 24-unit and a 272-unit property.  None of my family were real estate investors.

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On the syndicated units will there always be multiple owners or will there ever be a day where to refi and pay the money partners to go away?

@Gregg Scott

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Joel:

There are people that do that, but it is not everyone's goal.

Apartments definitely have an economies of scale. We spend just as much time managing our 24 unit as we do our 272 unit properties. Guess which one gives us the bigger ROI on our time? (This is not a trick question. Today we went over to our 24 unit and were picking up garbage, throwing the "donated couches" into the dumpster and making minor repairs. Those are not high-value tasks but they need to be done and it is hard to find part-timers to do that work cost-effectively.)

At this time, there is no way we could afford to buy a 200+ unit on my own.  We don't have that kind of capital.  On the other hand, we could afford to buy a 24 unit as an Independent Rental Owner (IRO).  But, we prefer to manage staff and investors in a big property than to have to manage the day to day minutia of a small property.  Other people prefer the day-to-day small property lifestyle and don't want to deal with investors.

Our goal is to continue buying big properties and growing our wealth until we have the option of being an IRO on a large property.