Real Estate Broker · Columbus, OH · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
I know this varies a lot, but is there a somewhat standard formula to factor certain size properties...6 units typically run X, 8 units typically run Y....etc.?
Insurance Agent · Nationwide · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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@Brandon Sturgill any commercial insurance policy will have a property rate, premium per $100 of building value and Liability rate, cost per unit/door. Commercial Property (4 units or greater) rates in the Midwest are running around $0.20 to $0.50 depending on age, building type and occupancy. Liability rates are $20-$100 per door.
Using the rates on your current policies, you can back into the estimated annual premiums. So for example, if you fin dour current property rate is $0.30 per $100 and your per door liability rate is $50, you can estimate as follows,
* $200,000 4 family would be $600 for property and $200 for liability, annual total of $800.
* $200,000 10 family, property is $600 per year and liability is $500 for an annual total of $1100.
The total annual premium will probably vary 5-10%, but will give you a good ballpark.
Lastly, this process works best if you are buying like and kind properties. If you are buying a single family that is 10 years old and then a 5 unit that is 110 years old, just call your broker and get them quoted out.
Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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@Brandon Sturgill as you mentioned, it varies a lot depending on multiple factors a couple of them being the deductible and what's included in the insurance. That said, I've got a large apt community in Cincinnati that is about $175 per unit.
Insurance Agent · Nationwide · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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@Brandon Sturgill any commercial insurance policy will have a property rate, premium per $100 of building value and Liability rate, cost per unit/door. Commercial Property (4 units or greater) rates in the Midwest are running around $0.20 to $0.50 depending on age, building type and occupancy. Liability rates are $20-$100 per door.
Using the rates on your current policies, you can back into the estimated annual premiums. So for example, if you fin dour current property rate is $0.30 per $100 and your per door liability rate is $50, you can estimate as follows,
* $200,000 4 family would be $600 for property and $200 for liability, annual total of $800.
* $200,000 10 family, property is $600 per year and liability is $500 for an annual total of $1100.
The total annual premium will probably vary 5-10%, but will give you a good ballpark.
Lastly, this process works best if you are buying like and kind properties. If you are buying a single family that is 10 years old and then a 5 unit that is 110 years old, just call your broker and get them quoted out.
Rental Property Investor · Phoenix/Lima, Arizona/OH · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Brandon - in Ohio, Indiana, Michigan you're looking at about $200 - $250/door in most cases. I've seen it at $150 in AZ and $450 in TX - be careful and price it out.
The most accurate way to forecast premiums is to find estimated property, GL, and excess rates. If you know the ballpark rates for a given region or property type, you will be able to more accurately estimate premium. Ask your agent for the rates and plug them into the formulas below.
Property Premium = "Total Insurable Value (TIV)" divided by 100 x "PROPERTY RATE"