How to Raise Private Capital - Experience with Chinese Investors

How to Raise Private Capital - Experience with Chinese Investors

Developer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes

One of the most common questions newbie real estate investors ask is:

"I am a newbie and I want to raise private money to buy deals. How can I do it?"

I will answer it using my personal experience. 

I started investing in 1999. I lost everything and had to re-start my investing career. But from losing everything I have now acquired over 1,000 apartment units. 

Here's my story for those who don't know me: (this is just Part 1 of a 3 part series)

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/55/topics/690349-from-bankruptcy-to-1-000-units-part-1-thru-the-dark-tunnel

Fast forward to today, without any advertising, I was able to get investors...even investors from China. Here's a picture:

So How Did I Do It?

1. Don't raise private money for your first deal. Buy a property on your own first. 

Why? Because, as a newbie investor, you're a high risk. You want to learn investing and make mistakes on YOUR dime not on someone else's. Good thing I did it that way though because I made mistakes, after mistakes and lost one property after another. Had I raise capital too early, I would have made my investors suffer for my mistakes.

How do you buy a property if you don't have any money? Three choices (you can do all three):
a. Learn owner financing
b. Learn how to wholesale first
c. Save enough money (I had to work 3 jobs just to save enough money for a downpayment. How badly do you want to do this?)

2. Once you've done a deal, do another deal and another.

Start small. Make a little bit of money. Roll it over to the next deal. Make a little bit more. And so on. What you want to do is establish a track record. Private capital is attracted to experience and track record.

3. Share your successes with everyone you know and everyone you meet.

Network like crazy. Talk excitedly about real estate investing. You can share your successes without sounding arrogant by sharing what you're learning on your deals, problems you've encountered and how you've solved them. Provide value to people and be genuinely interested in talking and listening to people - newbie or experienced investors. Treat everyone with respect and kindness. 

Here's my experience - sometimes people whom you think have no money - have money and vice versa. Sometimes, teachers, and secretaries are able to save more money than doctors and lawyers. SO treat everyone like you want to be treated. When you do, you will be referred to others.

That's how I met my investors in China. I was referred to them. I did not do any paid marketing or advertising to find them.

4. Once you secure private capital treat it higher than your own money. Don't be GREEDY and ensure you make money for your investors FIRST.

I give my investors security for their investment. I think of the downsides and mitigate them. I give my investors profit first before I take any profit. On top of that, my investments are structured in such a way that the probability of losing is very small. I buy below market in areas that are emerging or about to appreciate and I add value to the properties that I buy. This 3-part formula ensures the investment becomes successful - so much so that I've never lost any money for any of my investors ever (even through 2008!).

5. With Chinese Investors - and really, this is true for any investor...it's all about RELATIONSHIPS

When I went to China last week, my initial investor referred me to another investor with a networth 20 times his own. In the picture above the cumulative net worth of the people in the room is about $500 MILLION. But don't let that figure intimidate you. At the end of the day, people do business with people they like and trust. Having a meal together and even playing sports together - that's what people who like and trust do.

When problems arise - and expectations may not be met - having a personal relationship make things easier. 

Relationships are also fostered and nurtured through timely and constant communication. Be responsive to your investors - specially when problems arise.

One Challenge with Foreign Investors

One challenge with foreign investors specially with the "trade war" between US and China, is that transferring money (from China to US) is more limited than before.

Even then, I was able to buy a 42-unit apartment building In Cincinnati and a hotel in Columbus, primarily with the help of my Chinese investors.

So there you have it. How you can raise millions in private capital, even from foreign investors. It's not easy and it takes time but you can do it too. In summary, the formula is:

1. Be a nice person by treating everyone with respect

2. Network, network, network

3. Be a conservative investor and 

4. Be ruthless in making money for your investors.

Anyone who has raised money from private investors want to add or share their experience?

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Developer · Charlottesville, VA · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
7y

@Michael Ealy I love your story. This is a great example of what you can do if you set your mind to it, don’t give up, educate yourself, work hard and do the right thing. Well done!

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  • Investor · Missouri City, TX · Member since 2015 · 70 posts · 19 votes
    7y

    Great story man.. I'm glad things are working out.

    I like some of your advice.. as more an more deals come my way, im looking to raise more capital.

    wish you all the best! 

  • Developer · Charlottesville, VA · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy I love your story. This is a great example of what you can do if you set your mind to it, don’t give up, educate yourself, work hard and do the right thing. Well done!

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    Very inspiring.

    I am a huge fan of East Asia. Being able to cultivate friendships and relationships overseas is critical. Today, most of the money is in China.

    Congrats and well done!

  • Investor · Alameda, CA · Member since 2016 · 132 posts · 170 votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy - very cool story. thanks for sharing. do you travel internationally for real estate, these days?

  • Real Estate Agent · Pacific Palisades, CA · Member since 2018 · 43 posts · 14 votes
    7y

    Great advice and story. Thanks for taking the time to share and inspire us.

  • Developer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jaison Emmanuel:

    Great story man.. I'm glad things are working out.

    I like some of your advice.. as more an more deals come my way, im looking to raise more capital.

    wish you all the best! 

     
    Jaison, I am glad my story has inspired and educated you. Raising capital is not that big of a deal if you have the track record. Focus on finding good deals, networking offline and online and the money will follow :)

  • Developer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Greg Dickerson:

    @Michael Ealy I love your story. This is a great example of what you can do if you set your mind to it, don’t give up, educate yourself, work hard and do the right thing. Well done!

     Thanks Greg.


    Do you have foreign investors as well?

    Getting more money allowed out of China and into the US will make my hotel acquisitions go a lot smoother. If you have any thoughts on how to do that, send me a PM. Thanks! 

  • Developer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:

    Very inspiring.

    I am a huge fan of East Asia. Being able to cultivate friendships and relationships overseas is critical. Today, most of the money is in China.

    Congrats and well done!

     Thanks Andrey.

    You're right about the money being in China (not sure I can say "most" but I really don't know for sure).

    When you say you're a huge fan of East Asia, are you a fan in wanting to live there, like the culture or do you invest there (or maybe all of the above)?

    In my visit there, I sometimes felt I was treated there better than in my hometown Cincinnati.

  • Developer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Spencer Hilligoss:

    @Michael Ealy - very cool story. thanks for sharing. do you travel internationally for real estate, these days?

     Spencer,

    I do a lot of traveling within the US but internationally, not so much - except this trip to China. And it's not to check properties or invest internationally but to nurture my relationships with my Chinese investors.

  • Developer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Rob Duke:

    Great advice and story. Thanks for taking the time to share and inspire us.

     You're very welcome Rob.

    How's your market?

    I bet you have more Chinese investors who visit your city than Cincinnati.

    If you can establish a track record, you will attract Chinese investors too - probably more than I could.

  • Developer · Charlottesville, VA · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Michael Ealy:
    Originally posted by @Greg Dickerson:

    @Michael Ealy I love your story. This is a great example of what you can do if you set your mind to it, don’t give up, educate yourself, work hard and do the right thing. Well done!

     Thanks Greg.


    Do you have foreign investors as well?

    Getting more money allowed out of China and into the US will make my hotel acquisitions go a lot smoother. If you have any thoughts on how to do that, send me a PM. Thanks! 

    Michael - Yes I have many international investors looking for opportunities in the US. I would be happy to discuss this with you. I sent you an email to set up a time to talk.

  • Rental Property Investor · Glen Rock, NJ · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy 

    Thank you for "preaching to the choir"! I enjoyed reading your story! I think you should expand on it by writing a book on the topic.

    You have no idea how much your points about building relationships resonate with me and how I conduct business. 

    I actually wrote an article on the topic: 

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/10850/75569-care-for-your-investors-like-mom-cares-for-you

  • Specialist · Tampa, FL · Member since 2012 · 933 posts · 492 votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy that a way to face adversity and overcome it. Whatever the mind believe it can achieve. Great job. Great Story

  • Developer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Alina Trigub:

    @Michael Ealy 

    Thank you for "preaching to the choir"! I enjoyed reading your story! I think you should expand on it by writing a book on the topic.

    You have no idea how much your points about building relationships resonate with me and how I conduct business. 

    I actually wrote an article on the topic: 

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/10850/75569-care-for-your-investors-like-mom-cares-for-you

    Hi Alina,

    Thanks and great article there that you wrote.

    I was about to say the same thing - I treat my investors like they are family. I protect their interest "fiercely" as a lionness protects her cubs. I set things up so that no matter what, the investors will get their money (return OF investment) and as much as possible their return ON investment.

    Great minds think alike!

    Kudos to you. It sounds like you're pretty successful at syndicating deals.

  • Specialist · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2012 · 865 posts · 351 votes
    7y

    You said start small in the beginning to prove a track record. I’m assuming you’re speaking of single family houses. At what point and how did you transition into apartments?

  • Rental Property Investor · Glen Rock, NJ · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y
    Michael,
    Thank you for your kind words! Like you said, "Great minds...!" 
    Appreciate you sharing your powerful relationship building message with everyone! 


     Originally posted by @Michael Ealy:
    Originally posted by @Alina Trigub:

    @Michael Ealy 

    Thank you for "preaching to the choir"! I enjoyed reading your story! I think you should expand on it by writing a book on the topic.

    You have no idea how much your points about building relationships resonate with me and how I conduct business. 

    I actually wrote an article on the topic: 

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/10850/75569-care-for-your-investors-like-mom-cares-for-you

    Hi Alina,

    Thanks and great article there that you wrote.

    I was about to say the same thing - I treat my investors like they are family. I protect their interest "fiercely" as a lionness protects her cubs. I set things up so that no matter what, the investors will get their money (return OF investment) and as much as possible their return ON investment.

    Great minds think alike!

    Kudos to you. It sounds like you're pretty successful at syndicating deals.

  • Rental Property Investor · New York City · Member since 2019 · 703 posts · 538 votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy - Great stuff!! Very impressive.  Here in NYC Chinese investors are buying commercial and residential Manhattan properties with Cash!  

  • Investor · Winhall, VT · Member since 2016 · 106 posts · 44 votes
    7y

    This is so awesome, thanks for sharing!

  • Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy thank you for sharing your experience. This really motivated me to stay focused on building great relationships while learning and sharing my experience. I hope we have the opportunity talk more about your journey and lessons learned.

    Best wishes on your continued success!

  • DJ DawsonBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2015 · 394 posts · 259 votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy love this topic man you're killing it. I would add market yourself through social media and share not just your wins but the struggles you have as well people can respect that and it creates the perception you're not afraid to lay it all out there! You never know who has cash and who wants to work until you give them a reason to WANT to work WITH YOU!

  • East Orange, NJ · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Thank you Michael for your advice and insight. Super helpful. Kudos to you for the tips and will certainly take them into account. I stumbled into a deal that will be my first but will be for a multi-unit apartment building. Do you recommend JVing with someone that's experienced to make private investors feel more comfortable?

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    7y

    great job !!!   many I see post on BP about their lack of success raising funding  usually relates back to their idea that they are the prime piece of the puzzle and the investors should be happy with the return they are offering.. this may be true when your grant cardone.. but starting out you have to honor the money no doubt.  And one thing about our investor base they think of things in terms of lifetimes..  and multi generational. 

  • Investor · Adelaide, South Australia · Member since 2015 · 136 posts · 78 votes
    7y

    Great advice Michael!

    Have you faced any hurdles partnering with foreigners such as withholding tax obligations or having their investment treated as ECI with the IRS?  

  • Shiloh LundahlPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy Nice post. I have found the same thing. Over the past 2 years I have followed the same formula you outlined above and I have raised probably around 1 million dollars among around 40 private money lenders. I’m currently in the middle of a large portfolio loan refinance that will allow me to pay off the majority of these private money lenders. It has been a great experience for all and it has definitely helped us be able to scale our business. Raising capital once you have a skill set is requisite to scaling a business in my opinion. And what you said about trust is exactly correct. Your private money lenders need to trust and like you to want to do business with you.

    Thanks for your post.

  • Rental Property Investor · 港区, Tokyo · Member since 2018 · 61 posts · 42 votes
    7y

    @Michael Ealy gotta say I love your success story. What a great post. I'm looking to do the same with investors in Japan (I'm based in Tokyo) who want to invest in multi family in the US. Wondering what kind of legal requirements /regulation you had to go through to sell equity to investors based in China?

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