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Analyzing my first fourplex

Ahmad D.
Posted Feb 21 2020, 19:33

Hey all, I'm analyzing a fourplex deal and wanted your input. I understand the numbers don't look great, I just want to know if I'm being too conservative in my estimates (especially on the turncosts, capex, maintenance)

Note this analysis assumes a cash purchase.

Property InfoMyFourPlex
OccupancyOccupied
Size2000 sqft | 1 bd apt homes
Year built1960's
NeighborhoodClass C
Sale Price (USD)165,000.00
Closing Costs1,200.00
Rehab + Repair2,000.00
Total Capital168,200.00
Rent
Monthly Rent (4 units)1,935.00
Vacancy Rate0.09
Annual Gross Rent21,130.20
Annualized Expenses
Property Taxes2,100.00
Property
Management Fees (10%)
2,322.00
Leasing Fees245.00
Property Insurance2,200.00
HOA0.00
Repair/Maintenence1,400.00
Utilities (Lawn, Trash)1,600.00
Annual Turncost
(Property management fee
+ 1000/apartment)
5,935.00
Total Operating Expenses15,802.00
Income
Net Operating Income5,328.20
CapEx Reserves1,600.00
Total Net Cash Flow3,728.20
CapRate3.23
Cash-on-Cash (post reserves)2.22

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Ahmad D.
Replied Feb 21 2020, 20:08

It wasn't clear if the table got posted in the original posting..

Here's a screenshot

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Edward Liu
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Edward Liu
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Replied Feb 23 2020, 21:37

For class C property, your numbers are not conservative, but in fact, could be overly optimistic.  It really depends on neighborhood, type of tenants, etc.   Your per turn cost likely will be higher due to damages to the unit.  I have more turns per year for class C properties.  Your initial closing cost and rehab cost all seems very low.  

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Spencer Cornelia
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Spencer Cornelia
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Replied Feb 23 2020, 22:35

@Ahmad D. what about this deal makes you interested in purchasing?  If those are the numbers, you're way better off investing into the stock market or bonds.

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Ahmad D.
Replied Feb 23 2020, 22:37

@Spencer Cornelia this was just an exercise to get feedback whether my due diligence numbers/assumptions were valid

I agree that this is not worthwhile proceeding under the current numbers :)

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Eric Mcginn
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  • San Bernardino, CA
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Eric Mcginn
  • Real Estate Investor
  • San Bernardino, CA
Replied Feb 23 2020, 22:46
Originally posted by @Ahmad D.:

Hey all, I'm analyzing a fourplex deal and wanted your input. I understand the numbers don't look great, I just want to know if I'm being too conservative in my estimates (especially on the turncosts, capex, maintenance)

Note this analysis assumes a cash purchase.

Property InfoMyFourPlex
OccupancyOccupied
Size2000 sqft | 1 bd apt homes
Year built1960's
NeighborhoodClass C
Sale Price (USD)165,000.00
Closing Costs1,200.00
Rehab + Repair2,000.00
Total Capital168,200.00
Rent
Monthly Rent (4 units)1,935.00
Vacancy Rate0.09
Annual Gross Rent21,130.20
Annualized Expenses
Property Taxes2,100.00
Property
Management Fees (10%)
2,322.00
Leasing Fees245.00
Property Insurance2,200.00
HOA0.00
Repair/Maintenence1,400.00
Utilities (Lawn, Trash)1,600.00
Annual Turncost
(Property management fee
+ 1000/apartment)
5,935.00
Total Operating Expenses15,802.00
Income
Net Operating Income5,328.20
CapEx Reserves1,600.00
Total Net Cash Flow3,728.20
CapRate3.23
Cash-on-Cash (post reserves)2.22

I feel like the beauty of a quadplex is it’s easy to self manage, Lots of savings there. But the utilities look low, does that include heat?  

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Ahmad D.
Replied Feb 23 2020, 22:48

@Eric Mcginn it actually does not, those are paid by tenant