Refinance Help - Just Lost My Job But Need To Pull Out Cash

Refinance Help - Just Lost My Job But Need To Pull Out Cash

Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 0 votes

Hey all,

I just bought a new house in August, 2017. We moved in and remodeled the basement into a 2 bedroom unit. We added the 2 rooms, a bathroom and a kitchenette with brand new everything down there. We also did quite a bit of work refreshing the upstairs.

The deal was done privately, so no banks have been involved yet. However, our plan was that after the remodel, we would refinance with a bank, pull out cash, and get the family members money out of the deal. We are just finishing this project the first week of January, 2018, when I lost my job just before Christmas. My plan was to launch into self employment later this year(after the refinance, of course), but I guess now is the time, I won't be getting another job. Though I am making income already, it only goes back 6 months and is not currently on any tax returns. 

My wife has been self employed for 3 years, but has consistently made about $14k per year. 

If we could pull out the equity we now have(we got a great deal to begin with), we would be able to pay off the money we borrowed for the remodel, as well as 2 of our other debts, increasing our cash flow by over $300/month. Are there any options for a cash out refinance as a newly self employed individual? Are their options to bring on a cosigner not living in the property to secure a new loan? Do I simply need to wait it out(definitely don't want to do that).

ps - I have not called any lenders yet, just thought I'd ask here first to get some direction with what to pursue and how. 

Thanks for any tips!

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Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
8y

Your best bet to be able to refi is to get another job.  Sorry.  You'll need the rental income on two tax returns in order for that to count.  So you're probably looking at sometime in the first half of 2019 before you could refi based on the rental and self employment income.  My advice would be to find another job similar to what you had, do the refi, work the side job in your non-working hours, build up some savings and then look at going full time self employed in 12-18 months.

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  • Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    Also, as of January 1, we officially have rental income of $650/month. 

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    8y
    If you want to refi, with reasonable terms, you lonely will Have to get another, similar job.
  • Realtor and Investor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Justin Jaeger I am sorry to hear about your job loss.  I hope that it doesn't cause a burden to your family.

    In terms of your refi, your only options for a refi in your current situation would be to obtain a no doc loan, which wouldn't look at you at all, but rather the property (and possibly your credit).  This would allow you to pay back your family members.  Unfortunately, this will come with a higher interest rate, and most likely come from a private money or hard money lender.

    HOWEVER, since you have 6 months of your self employment income, you will be filing taxes in a few months, and then have another full year of income next year.  So, potentially, you could be ready for a traditional bank lender in as early as 14-15 months with 2 tax filing cycles.  Additionally, you will have the added rental income on your tax filings as well, so that will just add to your income to qualify.  Can you make it work on a hard money loan for that long?

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    8y

    Your best bet to be able to refi is to get another job.  Sorry.  You'll need the rental income on two tax returns in order for that to count.  So you're probably looking at sometime in the first half of 2019 before you could refi based on the rental and self employment income.  My advice would be to find another job similar to what you had, do the refi, work the side job in your non-working hours, build up some savings and then look at going full time self employed in 12-18 months.

  • Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    Thanks all for your input. Unfortunately, not what I was hoping to hear, lol. But that's good to get some straight talk so I don't have misguided hopes.

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