Subject To/Seller Finance-Hard Money

Subject To/Seller Finance-Hard Money

Real Estate Agent · Member since 2023 · 1 post · 0 votes

Hi I'd like to connect with hard money lenders in the Nashville TN Area. I am looking to do a SUBJECT TO/SELLER FINANCE hybrid deal and want to put together funds for the renovation. I found out about this strategy through real estate investor Pace Morby.

Owner has had this rental since 2003 and doesn't want the headache of managing tenants anymore. I came down last week from Az to get some pictures of the inside and she needs some TLC.


Market Rent ($2,200-$2,500) (Reach out for address!)

SUBJECT TO the Existing Bank Loan Current Loan balance: $85,000
PITI: $850 Interest rate: 3.9%

SELLER FINANCE/TERMS

  • Purchase Price: $300,000 paid to seller at $500 monthly PRINCIPAL ONLY payments (600 payments over 50 years) - (seller collects passive income and doesn't pay capital gains tax)
  • $500 Payments to Seller will start after the REHAB. $850 mtg payment would be paid during renovations and vacancy (estimated 6 months)

ENTRY FEES:

Title close $3,700 Servicing company $250 Rehab $67,000

Monthly Holding costs:-MTG $850-utilities $300($1,150 monthly) x 6months rehab ($6,900) Hard Money loan $77,850 

(what type of interest rates do you charge? what could I expect a monthly payment to be?

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Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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@Ashton Travis

Why would a seller do this? 600 months at 500 is $6k. A year- they will have to consider 5% of that interest and pay taxes on it

They could sell this home for $120,000 cash and put it in a cd making 5% on that and be better off.

This is problem when people read these books etc - there is no reality in it.

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  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    3y

    @Ashton Travis

    Why would a seller do this? 600 months at 500 is $6k. A year- they will have to consider 5% of that interest and pay taxes on it

    They could sell this home for $120,000 cash and put it in a cd making 5% on that and be better off.

    This is problem when people read these books etc - there is no reality in it.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Nashville/Chattanooga · Member since 2016 · 45 posts · 44 votes
    3y

    @Ashton Travis Nashville is a challenging market to flip in, so most of us who do hard money lending in this area require a higher position lien, experience in the local market, cash reserves, and some kind of skin in the game.  

    Alternatively, this sounds like a great opportunity for a cashflowing rental.  If that's an avenue you're willing to explore, I may be able to help. Feel free to reach out if you want to discuss this scenario.

  • Morris County, NJ · Member since 2020 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    @Chris Seveney seller's do this because they are "stupid" or "misinformed."  Its funny --- such a hard sell / push about not paying taxes or just hating to pay uncle sam its share.  People would rather forgoe 80%-85% of the gain than pay their 15%-20% share to uncle sam.  I've ran into a few investors who find it so abhorrent to pay taxes, they'd rather lose the money.  

    @Ashton Travis so what are you looking for?  a hard money lender or some lender to provide $67k of rehab funds and be in 3rd position?

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