FHA, 203k or Conventional Mortgage with less than 20% Down

FHA, 203k or Conventional Mortgage with less than 20% Down

Walnut Creek, CA · Member since 2015 · 33 posts · 15 votes

Hello all!

My girlfriend and I are new to real estate investing and we know what strategy we want to follow; it’s going to be buy-and-hold in multifamily properties. We are aiming to buy a property around the middle of 2017 in the Sacramento area.

Even though we think we will have between $25k to $35k saved up between the two of us, that will still not be enough for a 20% down payment, and even if it were, we don't want to have all of our capital tied up in just the down payment and closing costs, therefore, we have been thinking about an FHA or 203k loan since they only require a minimum of 3.5% down payment. But another option I heard about in the BiggerPockets podcast, episode 90 I believe, is that one of the person's interviewed did a conventional loan for only 5% down and he was able to pay the PMI upfront, so I began considering this option as well.

Also, since we are not married and we are planning to structure a partnership.

From this I have a few questions:

  • What are some key things to consider with an FHA or 203k loans?
  • Has anyone done a conventional loan with less than 20% down? Did you have the option to pay the PMI upfront? If so, what did the numbers look like?
  • In the conventional mortgage options, does it have to be owner-occupied like an FHA loan?
  • What type of banks would typically do an FHA or 203k loans or a conventional loan with less than 20% down?
  • How can I go about finding banks that have FHA or 203k loans?
  • Would my girlfriend and I be able to put both of our names in the loan or does it have to be in one name if it's an FHA or 203k loan?
  • Anything else related these types of financing that I should be aware of or need to educate myself in more?
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  • Investor · Bismarck, ND · Member since 2016 · 101 posts · 31 votes
    9y

    I think it is a good idea to structure a partnership agreement. 

    • What are some key things to consider with an FHA or 203k loans?
      • You must live in the property to utilize these loans. 203k allows you fix up the property as you live there.
    • Has anyone done a conventional loan with less than 20% down? Did you have the option to pay the PMI upfront? If so, what did the numbers look like?
      • I did a conventional with 5% down. I did not have the option to pay PMI upfront. I have heard of others doing it though.
    • In the conventional mortgage options, does it have to be owner-occupied like an FHA loan?
      • You can get a "conventional" mortgage and don't have to owner occupy. You pay a higher rate than normal. You also have to have 20% down. I think rates are close to 4.5-5% for investment loans. 
    • What type of banks would typically do an FHA or 203k loans or a conventional loan with less than 20% down?
      • Check with local small banks in your area. That is where I have the most luck.
    • How can I go about finding banks that have FHA or 203k loans?
      • Same as above
    • Would my girlfriend and I be able to put both of our names in the loan or does it have to be in one name if it's an FHA or 203k loan?
      • I am not sure how this works with the FHA. I have bought properties with more than one name on the loan.
    • Anything else related these types of financing that I should be aware of or need to educate myself in more?
  • Gordon CuffePro Member
    Investor · Roseville, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 587 votes
    9y

    @Dennis Cobosall of this depends if your living in the property . Send me a email and I can answer all your questions . 

  • Real Estate Agent · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2012 · 111 posts · 26 votes
    9y

    I think you'll find most lenders and agents will have heard of a 203k loan but have no direct experience with 203k loans and look at 203k financing as a VERY weak point in your offer.  If you go down that road, you'd want to make sure your lender has done many of these and can convince the listing agent that your offer isn't DOA.

  • Lender · Roseville, CA · Member since 2011 · 205 posts · 86 votes
    9y
    Dennis Cobos -you have many questions and I have many answers. I hesitate to post details publicly since your situation is unique and I don't want to inadvertently "advertise" but I am a lender in the Sacramento area and will be happy to educate you about some of your options. I guess I answered your question "how do I find a lender that specializes in these types of loans"?: post a question on BP! :D Please private message me or you can find my email on my profile.
  • Attorney · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2014 · 300 posts · 172 votes
    9y

    mistake. can't delete

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