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Alec Hilliard
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FIRST DEAL + hard money loan into a refinance

Alec Hilliard
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sherman, TX
Posted Oct 9 2019, 14:49

Hey, all!

First post here on BP! Been listening to the podcast now for a while.

I have some questions about financing. 

(some backstory: my wife and I have a chapter 7 bankruptcy on our credit report from Dec. 2018 (discharge date)) 

We cannot get traditional financing due to BK. 

The deal:

We found a house that we'd like to BRRRR -

Purchase: $35,000

Rehab: $35-40,000

All in: 70-75k

Rent $875+ 

We've gotten several pre-approval for HML at 90% Purchase and 100% rehab, but my fear (after talking to a traditional lender) is getting stuck with HML without a way to refi out of it.

Does anyone here have any loan products that could bridge over into a long term rental loan?

What would you do in this situation? 

I'm dying to get our first deal done and move forward.

Thanks! 

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Christopher Gibson
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Christopher Gibson
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 04:44

Hello Alec. I would check with the hard money lender and see if they would give you a lower rate after the rehab is done without points. It's worth a try. Happy investing!

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Tim Johnson
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Tim Johnson
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 05:09

They have non qm loans with 1 day seasoning out of BK. LTV is capped at 80% LTV so this might work for you. Rates are not the nicest but it will get you out of hard money.

You could also ask you hard money guy if they will do a DSCR loan, some lender don't care about BK on those.

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Jaron Walling
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Jaron Walling
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 05:50

What's the estimated ARV? What are the comps selling for?

Lets dive into numbers before we get crazy. 

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Ola Dantis
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Ola Dantis
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 08:44

@Alec Hilliard 

Yea, that might be interested if you are unable to REFi out, as that'll defeat the BRRRR purpose.

You should check a company called LimaOne (no affiliation). 

They might have a solution for you! 

Good luck to you guys. 

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Alec Hilliard
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Alec Hilliard
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 14:31

Thank you, everyone! I'll check out LimaOne, @Ola Dantis!

@Tim Johnson - what is a non-QM? and where would you look for those? Are you a lender? 

Thank you! 

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Tim Johnson
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Tim Johnson
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 15:00

@Alec Hilliard

What state are you in.  I can only do Michigan, Texas and Florida.  

You can google non qm loans are contact some brokers and they can help out.

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Alec Hilliard
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Alec Hilliard
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 15:13

@Tim Johnson - I'm in TX - let's talk! Just messaged you.

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Eric Figueroa
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Eric Figueroa
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 19:59

@Tim Johnson

Great Recommendation I am a wholesale account executive for Excelerate Capital and I can try and help on this deal. Let me know if you are approved with us if not I can send you a broker package. Would love to help.

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Eric Figueroa
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Replied Oct 11 2019, 20:00

@Alec Hilliard

Tim has offered great advice. Non QM is way to go in your scenario.