multi million PML, how crazy is this? Scam, or possibly real?

multi million PML, how crazy is this? Scam, or possibly real?

Flipper/Rehabber · Elkhart, IN · Member since 2014 · 197 posts · 41 votes

We have been approached by a millionaire from Nigeria. I have ran a check on him and he is indeed wealthy, if he is who he says he is. He has approached us with a multi million dollar loan offer. Seems bogus, and not sure why anyone would loan that much. I have had some legal advice on the loan papers, and everything seems in place. If he is who he says he is, it seems logical for him to loan us the money. He will make a lot more interest lending the money than investing any more in his country, or from the banks there. I am concerned with it being a scam, but not sure what purpose he would gain in doing this. Is the only thing I can do to protect us is to take it to a lawyer and let them handle it? Has anyone else ran into a large loan initiated from a person abroad. How do you close on such a loan? My concern is signing the papers and not getting the money. I don't see how he could do anything if he doesn't actually loan the money. Looking at it as "if it's too good to be true, it isn't real". Any input on this would be appreciated.

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  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    12y
  • Flipper/Rehabber · Elkhart, IN · Member since 2014 · 197 posts · 41 votes
    12y

    Thanks @J Scott. It makes sense for him to come here and handle any loan with a 3rd party. He is a gas/oil tycoon, that's why it sounds somewhat credible. I have been searching BP to see if I could find anything related to the situation. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Northern, CA · Member since 2012 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    12y

    There are SO many scams originating out of Nigeria that your chance at having found something legitimate are extremely slim.  Better to be safe than sorry and avoid it. 

  • Real estate investor · Las Vegas · Member since 2013 · 798 posts · 171 votes
    12y

    I would pass

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Elkhart, IN · Member since 2014 · 197 posts · 41 votes
    12y

    That was what I was also wondering. If the county is common for scams. I also could wrap up time and money, checking it out, that could be put to good use elsewhere. Weird though he is wanting it to be handled by a third party here. Just not wanting to come here to do so.

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2012 · 289 posts · 74 votes
    12y

    Not to say that all Nigerian are scammers. Nigeria is well known for being the home of well educated and experienced scammers. They have some of the best in Nigeria. I would not release any of my personal information to someone I don't know. It could end up in the wrong hands. Good luck. 

  • Dawn AnastasiPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    Does this person happen to be a Nigerian prince?

  • Joel OwensBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    12y

    I can tell you on the commercial real estate side when I have foreign clients buying here the lenders do not like seeing buyers from certain countries.

    The reason is those areas are notorious for money laundering, scams, or terrorist activities, etc.

    Some countries do not have taxes which makes it even more difficult here for commercial lenders to assess the borrower for loan purposes.

  • Joel OwensBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
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    On the Nigerian thing I have also seen China and other areas send spam e-mail with a legitimately wealthy person there they are impersonating.

    A quick way is to take the e-mail you get and copy it and then go to google.com and paste it. Generally you will see tons of posts about it being a scam etc.   

  • Jerry W.Pro Member
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    Investor · Thermopolis, WY · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    I went to college with a person from Nigeria and their country is a different world almost.  He told me you had to pay a bribe to get a government job every month you kept the job.  Then that job would would let you use it's authority to extort money from others to make money for yourself.  It is an art form.  Example the checkout guy at the airport.  If you do not bribe him he will keep you held up for days, and your luggage will most likely be ransacked or damaged.  A master swindler there is like a pro athlete in our country.  The government set up a program for farmers to get a loan for another ox etc to increase crop production.  They had to stop it, all that happened was that the farmers bought more wives with it.  Keep that in mind if you deal with someone from Nigeria.

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 744 votes
    12y

    Did he ask for an upfront fee?


    Joe Gore

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Elkhart, IN · Member since 2014 · 197 posts · 41 votes
    12y

    Thanks everyone. You have all had some really great, and interesting knowledge regarding this topic. He hadn't asked for any personal info yet, but somewhere in the process I would have to give him bank information and that's what really concerned me. I had already done a ton of google searching and checked out the email. Everything passed with flying colors. He owns or owned 7 gas stations there. I saw where 3 were up for sale in 2012. I worried about it though, too easy is not the best thing very often. 

  • Investor · Central Valley, CA · Member since 2012 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Terry:  how were you "approached" by this person?  Why did he select you and your business to loan millions to? Do you have anyway to vet the communications you are getting as actually coming from the person who has the assets you've checked out?

    Do not give any bank information to this person. A multi-million dollar loan?  Absolutely let an attorney handle the details and and the escrow.  Even if the person really has the money to loan, there are all kinds of issues with high dollar amounts coming into the country, and being deposited into your account. Those kind of wire transfers generate govt scrutiny of everyone involved.  

    Keep us posted!

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