Recommendation for Checkbook IRA?

Recommendation for Checkbook IRA?

Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 0 votes

Good morning everyone!  I have been on BiggerPockets for about a year but too nervous to post anything due to lack of knowledge in real estate.  Today, I am doing it.... 

I have a few 401k accounts from my previous employers and would like to move them into a Checkbook IRA. I did some research on BiggerPockets but most of the posts are old (3-5 yrs) so I am not sure if the information is still relevant.

My questions are: 

Does anyone has any recommendation on checkbook IRA? Accuplan, BroadFinancial, or any others?

Anyone has any success buy and hold real estate with a checkbook IRA?

Thank you for your help and time!

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Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
9y

Long, congratulations on breaking the ice and making your first post!

Checkbook IRA can be very powerful tool when it comes to alternative investing (real estate, private lending, tax liens, syndication, private placements, hard money lending, etc). Many of my clients successfully investing, the story of one just came to mind, hopefully it will inspire you and help you make the next move:  

https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/investing/self-dir...

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  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    9y

    Long, congratulations on breaking the ice and making your first post!

    Checkbook IRA can be very powerful tool when it comes to alternative investing (real estate, private lending, tax liens, syndication, private placements, hard money lending, etc). Many of my clients successfully investing, the story of one just came to mind, hopefully it will inspire you and help you make the next move:  

    https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/investing/self-dir...

  • Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2015 · 764 posts · 953 votes
    9y

    @Long Lam @Dmitriy Fomichenko has a great platform for learning more.  Also, I have several investors that use checkbook and several that use custodian (so they don't screw it up!).  Keep getting educated and you'll figure it out.

  • Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    9y
    Dmitriy Fomichenko Thank you for the link. Can I still get a mortgage for the rental property in my checkbook ira? If I can get a mortgage, is it much harder to get one with an LLC since I can not use any personal guarantees for the loan.
  • Brian EastmanPro Member
    Self Directed IRA & 401k Advisor · Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Long Lam

    An IRA must obtain a non-recourse mortgage, meaning no personal guarantee from you. There are a handful of lenders such as North American Savings Bank and First Western Federal that specialize in such loans. They typically want a higher down payment due to the loan being non-recourse, and are somewhat conservative in terms of type, age and quality of properties, but the capital is surely out there and available for the right deals.

  • Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    @Brian Eastman Thank you! 

  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    9y

    Long, as Brian mentioned the loan can be obtained but it must be non-recourse. You don't personally have to qualify for this loan since you are not providing personal guarantee but rather the property must qualify. If you are buying decent property and the value is there such loans are relatively easy to obtain. Over the years I assembled the list of lenders who offer such financing, hope you will find it helpful:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/blogs/2810/50272-lis...

  • Retirement Accounts Attorney · Southfield, MI · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Long Lam

    While the checkbook IRA is a good option, it is not necessary from a creditor protection perspective since IRAs are already afforded full creditor protection in the state of Texas.

    [Tex. Prop. Code Sec. 42.0021

    However, if you are trying to place investments more quickly, then IRA LLC may make sense.

  • Dave Van HornPro Member
    Fund Manager · Wayne, PA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    I know many people who've had success with a checkbook IRA. You just can't be too active in it, so I'd suggest considering hiring a property manager for your buy and holds.

    John Park of PGI is very familiar with Checkbook IRA accounts and may be able to help you out:

    http://www.pgiselfdirected.com/author/admin/

  • Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    @George Blower and @Dave Van Horn, thank you both for the information. I am truly appreciate your post.

  • Rental Property Investor · Broken Arrow, OK · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Long Lam I set up mine last year through Jeff Nabers with the Nabers Group out of Colorado.  They were very helpful.

  • Rental Property Investor · Federal Way, WA · Member since 2016 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    9y
    I just got mine set up thanks to Brian Eastman I also had funds from miscellaneous old 401ks I rolled into the SDIRA. Depending on the 401k company, it was either super easy or a big PITA to get the funds moved. I talked to a few different companies and went with safeguard. PM me if you’d like any more detail.
  • Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Thank you @Account Closed

  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Quote from @Dave Van Horn:

    I know many people who've had success with a checkbook IRA. You just can't be too active in it, so I'd suggest considering hiring a property manager for your buy and holds.

    John Park of PGI is very familiar with Checkbook IRA accounts and may be able to help you out:

    http://www.pgiselfdirected.com/author/admin/


     I found PGI through a meetup with Dave Van Horn and Bald Guy. They were great at first, but I think he has gotten too busy or found another path. I got a divorce and need the QDRO form (typically a 1-2 page template). I asked 5 months ago. It has still not been provided and he went dark after the first couple of "I'm working on it" responses. PGI used to be great, but now I am stuck holding the bag to figure out how to transfer an existing 401k plan as well as deal with an angry ex that doesn't have her money.

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