NYC Rent Stabilized Options

NYC Rent Stabilized Options

Investor · New York City, NY · Member since 2015 · 122 posts · 67 votes

Hi,

I have a question that is I would like to ask for feedback, suggestions, and stories of your experiences with. Our portfolio to date consists of a house in Connecticut that we have tenants in, a mixed use commercial building in upstate New York, and a rent stabilized apartment where we live in the East Village of NYC. The NYC building was sold a few years ago and has undergone condo conversion for about 80% of the 225 apartments. Initially we were offered $310,000 as a buyout but we declined knowing that we would lose about half to capital gains and also knowing that we couldn't move laterally with the net proceeds and still have a reasonably nice, yet affordable place to live here. Time has passed, our last kid is graduating from college and we're ready to move on to pursue real estate investment in the Portland, Maine area. What strategy might we pursue in activating a buyout negotiation on our apartment. The building owners are typically making $2 mil plus on small conversions like ours and $5 mil to $12 mil on combined 2 apartment larger units. This one could easily be combined with the one next door which is a converted 2 BdRm that sold for $5.7 mil. Ours is a 2 BdRm corner apartment with lots of windows on two sides. We have met with two real estate attorneys who do tenant law and they say we should expect offers of around $1 mil but that the problem will be soliciting an offer. Obviously this would provide seed money for other investments in Portland and elsewhere. Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing?

Thanks !!

Wayne

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COCKEYSVILLE, MD · Member since 2009 · 65 posts · 28 votes
11y

Talk to a CPA about a 1031 exchange. You want to line up a property to buy at the "same" time you sell.  (There is a limited window of time to complete the transaction, ?~90 days)  

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  • Brandon CohenPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · New York, NY · Member since 2014 · 160 posts · 45 votes
    11y

    Hi @Wayne V. your best move would be took up comps and offer that value to your neighbors, though it seems you know the comps well enough.  Not sure what you mean when saying it's a problem soliciting an offer?  Happy to help where I can.

  • Investor · New York City, NY · Member since 2015 · 122 posts · 67 votes
    11y

    Hi Brandon,

    Soliciting is probably the wrong word. I'm just looking for a good way to get things started.

    Wayne

  • Investor · New York City, NY · Member since 2014 · 141 posts · 65 votes
    11y

    Speaking as an attorney for a real estate developer that owns several buildings with RS tenants, I would LOVE to get your phone call starting a discussion.  Tell your landlord you are considering a move, but will only do so if the numbers make sense.  

    Also, consider speaking to an accountant who is savvy about real estate investing.  He or she may be able to give you creative ideas about how to shield the money, such as having your landlord outright purchase you a property in Portland.  Good luck.  

  • COCKEYSVILLE, MD · Member since 2009 · 65 posts · 28 votes
    11y

    Talk to a CPA about a 1031 exchange. You want to line up a property to buy at the "same" time you sell.  (There is a limited window of time to complete the transaction, ?~90 days)  

  • Member since 2022 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    4y

    @Wayne V., how did this go for you? I'm in a similar situation myself with a buyout proppsition from a LL. Did your lease qualify as a 1031 exchange? I read conflicting info in general about this.  Did an accountant suggest ways for you to legally shield a buyout from taxes? I just made a new post here (i'm new) under innovative strategies but I wonder if you have any ideas or how it worked out for you. Just an advice seeker. If you prefer to PM me that's cool (dont know if you can do that on this site!)

  • Member since 2022 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    4y

    @Randi Plevy hi Randi, I know you wrote above a long time ago. Do you know a way to figure out what the LL offering the buyout's maximum # would be? I'm a different person than OP but found this post bc I looked up rent stabilized lease buyout.

    You also mentioned finding a real estate investing savvy acct who could give ideas on how to shield buyout money. Do you know how to find such an accountant and have you learned any ideas yourself? I know that you had mentoined having LL buy a property outright....

    Thank you! I'm new to all this and trying to learn as much as I can.

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