What repairs are okay for tenants to make on their own?

What repairs are okay for tenants to make on their own?

Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 73 posts · 56 votes

I have a tenant who contacts me weekly for repairs. Some are legitimate and require a specialist, while others are trivial, such as replacing a sprinkler, and it's getting very tedious.

Which repairs can I reasonably expect or even ask a tenant to repair on their own? My instincts tell me none, but something as simple as buying a new sprinkler from Home Depot and screwing it on isn't hard to do. Thoughts? 

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Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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In general, none. Items that are consumable - heater filters, light bulbs - the tenant should be expected to maintain as part of the lease. Repair items should be handled by the property owner. The property should be functional when delivered, so I would be suspicious of a tenant that had a non-stop list of items that needed repair. In any case, non-emergency items would be addressed as time permitted, so I would just work it in there. 

My objection to the repair threshold is that tenants may not bother repairing or letting the owner know about anything small, since they don't want to fix it either, and that could end up creating a larger problem. A dripping P-trap might be a $10 part but the rotted cabinet plus install can end up being several hundred dollars. 

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  • Los Angeles · Member since 2018 · 466 posts · 471 votes
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    @Wesam S. Our lease from some years ago specified the tenant was responsible for any minor repair under $100. Keep in mind, this was a SFH, and tenants are more likely to consider it *theirs* which can make a big difference.
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    Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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    In general, none. Items that are consumable - heater filters, light bulbs - the tenant should be expected to maintain as part of the lease. Repair items should be handled by the property owner. The property should be functional when delivered, so I would be suspicious of a tenant that had a non-stop list of items that needed repair. In any case, non-emergency items would be addressed as time permitted, so I would just work it in there. 

    My objection to the repair threshold is that tenants may not bother repairing or letting the owner know about anything small, since they don't want to fix it either, and that could end up creating a larger problem. A dripping P-trap might be a $10 part but the rotted cabinet plus install can end up being several hundred dollars. 

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  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 73 posts · 56 votes
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    @Alvin Sylvain It is a SFH, I definitely need to update the lease to reflect the $100 repair stipulation.

  • Asheville, NC · Member since 2017 · 385 posts · 274 votes
    7y

    I don't let my tenants repair anything at all. Everyone thinks they know how to repair things but they don't . What if your tenant cross threads the sprinkler on and makes the repair more costly? That is just one example that I can think of. 

  • Professional Auctioneer · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    They all have my permission to replace light bulbs. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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    @Wesam S. Unfortunately most tenants can barely wipe their own hind ends . I would prefer they do much more than they do ..but alas, I am realistic and know it will be done dangerously ,cheaply , and unsafely by them
  • Specialist · Fort Collins, CO · Member since 2018 · 557 posts · 191 votes
    7y

    As Charles said, I would only allow extremely minor repairs like replacing dead light bulbs. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Douglas County, MO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    It really depends on the tenant. I had one contact me last summer about the air conditioner not working. She had already checked the circuit breaker, changed the filters and changed the battery in the thermostat. She told me she was pretty sure it was the thermostat. I told her I'd get the HVAC people there as soon as possible. She said, "Monday will be soon enough. I don't want you to have to pay extra for them to come on a Saturday."

    That kind of tenant I would trust to make minor repairs and let me know about bigger problems.

  • Handyman · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2018 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
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    I agree with @Sylvia B. that it depends on the tenant but I tend to get tenants who are less mechanically capable rather than more. The very worst you can get is a guy with a lot of cocksure overconfidence and and a smallish, smooth sort of brain, one particularly susceptible to the Dunning-Kruger effect who fancies that he came out of his mother with "skilz" and has no need of learning any now. Long-time Bigger Pockets readers will recognize the type well -- we get a lot of them here as well.

    "Yeah, I can handle it," "Yeah, I got it," "Yeah, I took care of it," are the three phrases that will empty your capex savings very quickly with these types.

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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    7y

    Light bulbs, change out broken door knobs, or other minor issues that can be fixed without any special tools or training. I typically talk to them first to verify competence.

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  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 73 posts · 56 votes
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    Thanks for all the advice everyone! 

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    BiggerPockets Money Podcast Host · Longmont, CO · Member since 2014 · 7k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    @Alvin Sylvain It is a SFH, I definitely need to update the lease to reflect the $100 repair stipulation.

    Be wary of this. If I was a tenant, and my landlord charged me for those small repairs, I'd just not share that they needed repaired. I want my tenants to tell me when things need to be repaired, not hide them from me so I don't charge them. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2016 · 325 posts · 253 votes
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    @Wesam S. I think the question is why property needs weekly repairs? Is it caused by tenants or something that should have been addressed at turnover and was not. I fix every property at every turn over the way I would personally want to live in it without being extravagant. This has avoided calls for months and years in some cases. I also do routinely inspect them when I am out changing HVAC filters. My tenants change the blinds, light bulbs, some change toilet kits on their own but that’s just about it. All repair must be reported to me as soon as they know about it.
  • Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2016 · 325 posts · 253 votes
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    @Wesam S. Don’t include $100 fee for tenant to pay. Often time they will just ignore the repair causing bigger problems down the road.
  • Rental Property Investor · Fort Collins, CO · Member since 2015 · 273 posts · 127 votes
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    What risks are you willing to take. You're the owner. A manager will take and allow (hopefully) zero risks and everything except a light bulb would require a handyman hired through the management company. As an owner though, this is your investment. What is more important to you? Time, money, longevity and assurance of the asset, or stress free. Although, at times even if your goal is to spend as little time as possible on a property, you may spend hours dealing with an issue. Or if you're trying to save money by doing the work yourself, you still may have to call a professional service tech in the end and have wasted your time and money. 

    If you are the owner and manager of your property, you may have a tenant that is super handy and willing to fix your place up while he/she lives there and when they move out you all of a sudden have a much better asset. But if you are not willing to take that risk, than hire a service tech for everything and don't worry about it. 

    Take each case individually as an owner/operator and don't put a "system" in place for something that shouldn't be systematized. Or take a management approach as an owner/operator and disallow all repairs and require tenants submit all maintenance issues to you in as timely a matter as possible or face possible liability. 

  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 73 posts · 56 votes
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    @Patrick Soukup That was an excellent reply and a great perspective, thank you.

    @Al Pat Some of the repairs/requests are definitely warranted as I received the property in an "as is" condition so it needed some work and there are some things I overlooked. For example, a log burner in the fireplace (never had a single tenant use the fireplace so this is a new one). 

    Some repairs are very small however, such as a cap for a sprinkler, the garage door clicker needing to be reset, etc. 

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