700 credit score cant get 10% down 2nd home loan?? need 740?

700 credit score cant get 10% down 2nd home loan?? need 740?

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Hi, i am trying to purchase my first STR. I thought i had found a lender but after running the numbers, was told i need a better credit score. has anyone ells had this problem or found a lender that will do 10% down with 700 credit score? please help thank you!

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Jay HurstBusiness Member
Lender · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
3y
Quote from @Brandon Vaughan:

Hi, i am trying to purchase my first STR. I thought i had found a lender but after running the numbers, was told i need a better credit score. has anyone ells had this problem or found a lender that will do 10% down with 700 credit score? please help thank you!

 @Brandon Vaughan    What you are likely running into is a loan level pricing adjustment (LLPA) issue. LLPA's are what Fannie and Freddie charge to deliver a loan to them.  The LLPA are a set of matrixes based on property type, credit score and loan to value. The higher the loan to value or lower the score the higher the LLPA which pushes up the rate. 10% down second homes have VERY large LLPA adjustments of 4.125.  See second home line in the middle of this snip:

with a 700 credit score and 90% loan to value you also have a 1.00 adjustment vs a .250 adjustment for 740 or higher. see snip:

so, likely your lender cannot simply do a loan with those combined adjustments because the required rate/costs are not offered.  If you can possibly put down 20% in would be doable but also a lot cheaper for you. 

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  • Luke CarlPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tennessee Florida · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y

    Haven’t done one in years but I do know 10% isn’t what it used to be. Lenders aren’t excited about giving them out and I don’t blame them. Especially if you’re posting on the internet that you’re going to rent it. I would imagine what your lender is telling you is correct but you can always call another broker or two. 

  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    3y

    Do you meet the distance from you requirement for a 2nd home?

    I'm surprised a 700 score would be an issue.

  • Lender · Augusta, ME · Member since 2014 · 55 posts · 21 votes
    3y

    you can do a 2nd home purchase with 10% down and a 700 score,  but John is correct. You'll need to show that the 2nd home is in what a typical 2nd home area would be and meets the distance requirement. You'll also need to carry pmi and at least 6 months reserves...the loan will also need DU Approve so if theres anything an underwriter would see that would call anything into question then you're back into 20% + down as an investment property

  • Member since 2018 · 15 posts · 1 vote
    3y

    Thanks everyone for you input. I do meet the distance requirements ect. what is DU approved?

  • Andrew SteffensBusiness Member
    Tampa, FL · Member since 2022 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    @Tyler Solomon can you help?

    If not, and if you are looking in FL, I have some lenders that can help.  Good luck!

  • Jay HurstBusiness Member
    Lender · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Brandon Vaughan:

    Hi, i am trying to purchase my first STR. I thought i had found a lender but after running the numbers, was told i need a better credit score. has anyone ells had this problem or found a lender that will do 10% down with 700 credit score? please help thank you!

     @Brandon Vaughan    What you are likely running into is a loan level pricing adjustment (LLPA) issue. LLPA's are what Fannie and Freddie charge to deliver a loan to them.  The LLPA are a set of matrixes based on property type, credit score and loan to value. The higher the loan to value or lower the score the higher the LLPA which pushes up the rate. 10% down second homes have VERY large LLPA adjustments of 4.125.  See second home line in the middle of this snip:

    with a 700 credit score and 90% loan to value you also have a 1.00 adjustment vs a .250 adjustment for 740 or higher. see snip:

    so, likely your lender cannot simply do a loan with those combined adjustments because the required rate/costs are not offered.  If you can possibly put down 20% in would be doable but also a lot cheaper for you. 

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  • Lender · Augusta, ME · Member since 2014 · 55 posts · 21 votes
    3y

    DU is Desktop Underwriting which is an automated underwriting system. If you don’t get the DU approval you most likely won’t get the loan

  • Member since 2018 · 15 posts · 1 vote
    3y

    @Jay Hurst  Thank you. I do believe this is what the lender was trying to explain to me was the issue. So if my understanding is correct, no one can qualify for a 10% down secondary home loan with a 700 credit score at the moment? 

  • Jay HurstBusiness Member
    Lender · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Brandon Vaughan:

    @Jay Hurst  Thank you. I do believe this is what the lender was trying to explain to me was the issue. So if my understanding is correct, no one can qualify for a 10% down secondary home loan with a 700 credit score at the moment? 

     @Brandon Vaughan   Well, all lenders have different "max" rates on their rate sheets.  Pricing it out I can do it, but pricing will be ugly. 

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  • Lender · Nashville TN - Licensed in AL AR DC FL GA LA MD TN, TX and VA · Member since 2021 · 583 posts · 338 votes
    3y

    @Brandon Vaughan - it's worthwhile to try with another lender or 2. Different lenders have different layovers/risk appetites. Your credit score alone should make you eligible for a 2nd home loan, but as others alluded to, there are other factors that exist as well. You are definitely going to have to pay some discount points for your rate, which requires more money upfront. Where are you looking to buy? 

  • Real Estate Agent · Smoky Mountains, TN · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 984 votes
    3y

    740 appears to be the ‘good credit’ tier. I have other lenders who say the same thing. 

  • Jay ThomasPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 715 votes
    3y

    Having a credit score of 740 or higher is widely seen as the benchmark for having good credit. This is something that I have heard from many different lenders, so it stands to reason that this is commonly seen as a good credit tier. It's important to build and maintain your credit in order to get access to better loan rates and other financial opportunities. That's why understanding what makes up good credit is essential!

    It can be daunting at first, but with a little bit of knowledge and diligence, you can make sure you're on the right track. Doing things like making timely payments, keeping balances low on your cards, and monitoring your accounts for accuracy are all great steps toward cultivating good credit. You've got this! Good luck!

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