Don’t Panic, Pivot - Short Term Rental Turned 30+ Day Stays

Don’t Panic, Pivot - Short Term Rental Turned 30+ Day Stays

Mel VollandPro Member
Realtor · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 23 votes

Hey Team! Mel here ready to share lessons learned and pivot strategies that saved our Short Term Rental business and made it even better! 

We purchased a 4-plex in 2019 as our second investment property with our initial goal to renovate and shift to vacation rentals. The property is one block off the beach in Ocean View Norfolk and the area is seeing killer growth and attraction to local investors. Each unit is 2B1B about 850 sq/ft. 

Purchased: $345,000 

Investment: $62,000 

2019 cash flow positive $100 with rental income as follows: 

Unit 1: $725/mo

Unit 2: $625/mo 

Unit 3: $800/mo 

Unit 4: Eviction and first renovated unit 

This felt overwhelming and to say I had buyers remorse was an understatement, but I know with my husband and I’s plan of action would bring us to a place we wanted to be! We took a few months to completely renovate unit #4. We ran into some challenges with our contractor at the time (didn’t properly vet him out) and left us with subpar efforts and a drawn out renovation period. Lack of responses and asking for more money. We’ve all heard the horror stories before. Luckily, we knew enough NOT to pay him more until we were satisfied. He ghosted us and we brought someone new in, who is now our go to! 

Anyway! I digress, we furnished the unit and listed it on Airbnb. SUCCESS! Hit 5 star reviews consistently and we’re getting bookings at least 80% occupancy per month or more and realized it was time to up the prices! In the summer we asked about $120+ per night and we were ready for more. Our tenants in #3 broke their lease and WALLAH! Time to renovate and furnish our next unit. In the off season we began listing on Furnished Finder, a niche that works incredibly well in our area. They specialize in travel healthcare workers and has now expanded beyond. We never had a full month of vacancy. 

However, much of our costs were going straight to our cleaning fees. Turnover after turnover and paying utilities and internet and repairs and on and on. Working full time and juggling check ins and check outs, cleaners and complaints it was getting a bit tired. 

We then did a cash for keys deal with our tenant in #1 who was a slight hoarder and had a legit HOLE in the bathroom floor with rotting subfloor that we didn’t know about, she needed to go. Renovation #3!!! BOOM! Third furnished unit. 

We were blissfully unaware of certain code and zoning violations in our area for short term rentals. We received a violation notice. Oops! We rushed to apply for permitting and get on track the right way with our city. DECLINED. Now, what the heck! We built this business and making upward of $3,000-$7,000 a month and we have to shut down? 

OR

We pivot. Don’t panic, pivot. 

We made nice with all our city officials to confirm that we could in fact, still keep our listings up and advertise 30+ day stays. “Furnished long term rentals.” Loophole? I’m not sure, but this was the direction of our business. We learned that our due diligence was not complete at the time of purchase. There were several missteps and oversights. But we kept moving forward. 

Turns out, it has been the BEST thing for us. I was pulling my hair out dealing with check ins and outs, cleaners and more! We were making great money, but 50% would go to our cleaners each month for the 6-8 turnovers they were doing. Supplies were coming in and out quicker and it was challenging to manage. This strategy was not aligned with our passive income dream. 

Fast forward to today, 2021 we have 3 of the units furnished and one long term...I mean 21 years long term tenant. the rental income is as follows:

Unit 1: $1600/mo 9 month contract through Furnished Finder 

Unit 2: $825/mo long term tenant month to month lease 

Unit 3: $1700/mo 4 month contract through Furnished Finder 

Unit 4: $2700/month 3 month booking through Airbnb 

Cash flow positive $3,500-$5,000 per month. Our cleaning fees are wayyyy down. We aren’t burning through supplies and my time can be focused elsewhere in our business rather than focusing on check ins and outs every. single. day. Whew! I am a much happier lady and our business is thriving. 

I would love to connect with all my fellow short/long term rental folks! Let’s keep making it happen fam! Get out there, get moving, keep pivoting when necessary! 

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Jacob SloopBusiness Member
Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2020 · 274 posts · 111 votes
5y

Thank you for sharing!  It's great to see this working in OV, I live right up the street, and it's great to see the area turning around.  Very inspiring stuff!

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  • Patti RobertsonBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    These are beautiful!  Nice job!

  • Member since 2020 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    I would love to do something similar in Norfolk/Ocean View/VA beach. I've put in three bids in the past month, and haven't won any. The market here feels a bit crazy to me. Houses listed, delisted, and then re-listed for 10% more. Very concerned about over paying just to get into the market. Any thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated.

  • Realtor · PInellas County Largo, FL · Member since 2016 · 902 posts · 810 votes
    5y

    Great job!  I've been planning to furnish at least one of my units in my 4-plex as it turns.  I haven't had any turns in 2.5 years, though!

    I think that's the sweet spot if you can get it 1-4 months is perfect.  My main concern has been dealing with all the turns -- I do not want to be a hotel manager and my partner left being a hotel manager!  I do want  to be a hotel owner, though.  

  • Rental Property Investor · Durango, CO · Member since 2019 · 17 posts · 13 votes
    5y

    What a great post, I am glad to see you found success with the 30+ day short term rental option! We recently purchased a 4-plex in a small-sh mountain town in Colorado. We have the same local laws that within specific zones only X amount of short term rentals are allowed. Because of that we are planning on advertising one of the units on AirBnB for 29+ night stays to take advantage of the "loophole". We are nervous that we won't get it rented out, but worse case we can take out the furniture and look for long term tenants. I haven't heard of Furnished Finder, we will definitely check that out. 

    How were you able to find immediate success with your listings? Or was it a trial and error? I would love some suggestions.

  • Marc RiceBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus Cleveland Dayton, OH · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    Love the pivot, keep up the great work!

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  • Sean RooksPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · High Point, NC · Member since 2017 · 272 posts · 304 votes
    5y

    Congrats! That rocks, love the mindset and flexibility!

  • Mel VollandPro Member
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    Realtor · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 23 votes
    5y

    @D. Mark Miller thanks for commenting! I love that we can connect on this. The market is definitely competitive and in the seller’s favors. However, there are deals out there it’s just a different mindset and game. It’s fantastic that you’re putting yourself out there and making offers, because another offer declined or not accepted brings you closer to the next deal that is a yes! It can be disheartening for sure, but my recommendation wouldn’t be to wait it out. Nobody knows for sure how the market is going to change and it’s about the long term (depending on your investment strategy). I would keep doing what you’re doing! Set the expectation that it might take some time, but stay active and an opportunity will keep presenting itself. If you’re making offers, my suggestion would be to offer full asking (if it makes sense of course) then do your negotiating on the backend upon acceptance and contingencies and see what happens! You’ll likely not find a deal under asking because of the competition. There’s usually a opportunity to exit the deal if you want to based on contingencies, and that’s how we approach it. Plus, it’s another opportunity to learn. Are you hooked up with any of the investor groups in the area on FB? Would love to get you in there with us! 

  • Mel VollandPro Member
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    Realtor · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 23 votes
    5y

    @Dan Maciejewski AMAZING! That’s incredible that your units are full. Y’all are definitely doing something right! I’m not involved in the Florida market (yet) but based on how popular investing is there, the vacations and retirement opportunities it seems like furnished would do really well! What’s the market like? Think about the types of jobs people have, companies in the area, airports, hotels, military, hospitals, schools, etc. we have gotten a lot of people “working from home” who just want to work out of someone else’s home during covid! The furnished long term is an odd niche that I was unaware of until now. There’s a definite need! What size are your units? Ours are 2B1B and we spent about $5k to furnish. 

    This strategy does not feel like a hotel management role like a normal hotel or vacation rental would. We are averaging our cleaners coming out for a deep clean every 2-4 months sometimes less. AND spending less on restock of supplies. I write leases and order supplies directly to our cleaners and they take care of it, they also do the walkthroughs and let me know of any damages. That’s it! Plus our other contacts for landscaping and handy services, just a phone call or text away. We anticipate moving out of the area and our units would be self sufficient. 

    Hotels are in our future too! We look all the time. Perhaps there’s a partnership in our future😉 would love to learn alongside other likeminded peeps! 

    Let me know if you end up pursuing hotels and/or furnished listings! I love the design aspect and could find a way to help you if you need! I have checklists, supplies list and furnishings lists pretty much down. Keep it up!! 

  • Mel VollandPro Member
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    Realtor · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 23 votes
    5y

    @Trevor Bogus Congratulations! That’s huge! Y’all are going to crush it! City officials are not pleased with Airbnb type stays and it’s really sad for property owners, but there is still hope! The “loophole” now coined😉 is a great way to get visibility on Airbnb, Furnished Finder has been huge for us too, I’m glad I could turn you onto that! Make sure on your listing it is CLEAR about 29+ days otherwise you could be cited by the city. They are always looking at Airbnb listings to see who is not in compliance. It might even be worth reaching out to them as a heads up and then you have that evidence in your back pocket if anyone tries to tell you 29+ days aren’t allowed. 

    How big are your units? Without knowing the area of your property, my suggestions would be to really think about your area as a destination. Close to the mountains? How close? What are some fun local things to do? Horseback riding? Skiing? Are there popular hikes? Is there water nearby for swimming or other activities? What about restaurants? Coffee shops? Tours? What makes your place unique? 

    You’re basically branding yourself. Other suggestions; once units are furnished I always stay at least one week. Figure out the nuances of the unit, weird quirks or things you might be missing. Shower there and use all appliances, test the internet, etc. make sure you have a desk somewhere for people working from home. I’m always upfront on the listings with the tenants about costs, security deposits, cleaning and pet fees (furnished finder). Gosh, I could literally go on and on!! But you are correct, if all else fails we could still do long term unfurnished rentals and that’s pretty incredible! Basically, feel free to call or text me: (707) 484-3240 I have so much info😂 GOOD LUCK!! 

  • Jim BlackburnBusiness Member
    Lender · Florida Based (48 states Puerto Rico) · Member since 2017 · 321 posts · 121 votes
    5y

    @Mel Volland

    Great post!

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  • Real Estate Syndicator · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2018 · 903 posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    Great pivot. Stay in real estate long enough and you have to pivot! The cycles and demand require it. Thanks for sharing.

  • Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 7 votes
    5y

    I found the same thing! Actually, the ones who were making great money were my cleaners and my maintenance people. Too many people look at the gross revenue of the airbnbs and not the net. But yes, the gross looked great on paper.  I love the tip on the furnished rental web site. Very cool! Good luck to you and glad you stayed on your toes and got your life back again! It's a real grind that only pays in certain circumstances... Cheers.

  • Jonathan StonePro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Camas, WA · Member since 2020 · 284 posts · 202 votes
    5y

    @Mel Volland

    Awesome story. Thanks for sharing your experience as I think it is valuable!

  • Member since 2020 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    Mel Volland, I'm on TRIG, and have participating in a few of the Hopportunity Investing FaceTime events.   Looking to meet other local investors.   Thank you for your insight.  

  • Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach, VA (Virginia Beach) · Member since 2019 · 173 posts · 129 votes
    5y

    We Walked past the building yesterday it looks fantastic you guys are killing it! Would love to hear more about your dealings with the city and what the hurdles were!

  • Jacob SloopBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2020 · 274 posts · 111 votes
    5y

    Thank you for sharing!  It's great to see this working in OV, I live right up the street, and it's great to see the area turning around.  Very inspiring stuff!

  • Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach, VA (Virginia Beach) · Member since 2019 · 173 posts · 129 votes
    5y

    @Mel Volland what was your I tail furnishing costs? The units look amazing.

  • Real Estate Broker · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2014 · 127 posts · 31 votes
    5y

    Hello!  We have had great success with catering to military families or folks that were in between homes for longer stays.  OK with pets etc and didnt have any trouble there.  Norfolk city was great to work with for everything.  Have you invested in making your own direct booking site?

  • Rental Property Investor · Rockville, MD · Member since 2015 · 59 posts · 22 votes
    5y

    @Mel Volland. Congrats on your success! We are doing something similar! How do the LtR feel that they have STR in and out of the building?

    Do you know why Norfolk rejected your application? Is it something you can change or because of the unit count?

  • Mel VollandPro Member
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    Realtor · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 23 votes
    5y

    @Sovat C. Norfolk rejected due to being in an APZ, accident potential zone. This is part of the Virginia AICUZ disclosure when purchasing a property. Possibly flight path accident. Part of the which is not clear on the city website, so we found out as we went through the process. I could go on about how little this makes sense from a STR standpoint. But I'll spare you on that! Haha

  • Mel VollandPro Member
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    Realtor · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 23 votes
    5y

    @Douglas Mcqueen less than $5k for a 2B1B ~850sqft this is including all furniture, decor, linens, kitchenware, etc! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach, VA (Virginia Beach) · Member since 2019 · 173 posts · 129 votes
    5y

    @Mel Volland that’s pretty amazing especially after seeing it, not sure how you managed to furnish for 5k but I’d love to hear about it. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Henderson, NV · Member since 2019 · 58 posts · 72 votes
    5y

    @Mel Volland Congratulations! Goes to show that sometimes stopping and stepping back to reassess your situation can make all the difference.

  • Investor · Leander, TX · Member since 2016 · 296 posts · 402 votes
    5y

    Yes, I want to up my portfolio earnings as well, and I'm going to turn one of my Atlanta properties into a luxury short-midterm rental. 

    Great location in the Camp Creek Parkway area built in 2018, and just 2.5 miles from the airport.

  • Realtor · Louisville, KY · Member since 2021 · 14 posts · 8 votes
    5y

    Hi! Great story, thanks for sharing! Sounds like you learned a lot!! Do you know if furnishedfinder allows cohosting? 

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