How about this one as a rental? 9082 Pinata Way, Sacramento

How about this one as a rental? 9082 Pinata Way, Sacramento

Roseville, CA · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 3 votes

Searching around and found this. HOA dues seem reasonable, needs work but it's a 2-BR for less than $100k. I'm sure I'm missing something or many things. Thoughts?

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Sacramento/9082-Pinata-W...

I don't have my ducks in a row yet, so anybody that sees this and wants it - go for it. :)

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Real Estate Agent · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2016 · 738 posts · 1k+ votes
9y

@David Zocchi -- I actually looked at a fourplex in this area, so I have a story that will help add some context to the neighborhood...

The numbers looked great on paper, and the price was right, so my client was quite excited to go and view the property and make an offer...

As soon as we turn the corner into the neighborhood, there was a guy with a couple pitbulls nearby throwing money into the air and rapping into the camera while filming a rap video with his friends. Dead serious lol. We didn't even stop to get out.

And @Gordon Cuffe is correct, the confidential agent remarks on the MLS listing note that "Property was broken into by vagrants, windows broken. It has been secured and boarded up."

Here's a look at the crime in the area for the past 6 months. Notice all the robberies and assault charges:

This is definitely an area I would recommend avoiding. You'll probably have way too many problems managing the property. Not worth it. 

As for the 1% Test/Rule, it's extremely rare to find a local property that goes above 1%, and it will most certainly be a 2-4 unit multifamily property. But you can regularly get in the 0.80% range for sub-$400k properties. 

The whole 2% Test rule-of-thumb is intended for $50,000 property that rents for $1,000 per month.

In California you'd need a $400k property to rent for $8k per month to hit 2%, and as soon as you find one of those let me know because I'll be the first to buy it ;-) 

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  • Gordon CuffePro Member
    Investor · Roseville, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 584 votes
    9y

    I looked back at the history on this property and it was purchased for 33k in 2011.then sold and purchased in 2015 for 53,500.0. Now the agent notes say property was broken into and windows broken so it is boarded up

  • Real Estate Agent · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2012 · 111 posts · 26 votes
    9y

    Based on the comps, these units consistently go for under 100k (between 70-80k).  The stated rents on some of the comps are between $750-$800/month.  Here is full redfin link:

    https://www.redfin.com/CA/Sacramento/9082-Pinata-Way-95826/unit-3/home/77487520

  • Roseville, CA · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    Thanks for the quick responses! I've been skeptical about finding anything in the 1% range locally. I'm going to drive through the neighborhood.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Morgan Hill, CA · Member since 2015 · 79 posts · 65 votes
    9y

    Always good to check on crime in the area, which is why I usually at least take a look at this:

    https://www.trulia.com/homes/California/Sacramento...

    Scroll down to the map and click on the police/crime icon to view reported incidents. This property is in a higher crime area.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2016 · 738 posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @David Zocchi -- I actually looked at a fourplex in this area, so I have a story that will help add some context to the neighborhood...

    The numbers looked great on paper, and the price was right, so my client was quite excited to go and view the property and make an offer...

    As soon as we turn the corner into the neighborhood, there was a guy with a couple pitbulls nearby throwing money into the air and rapping into the camera while filming a rap video with his friends. Dead serious lol. We didn't even stop to get out.

    And @Gordon Cuffe is correct, the confidential agent remarks on the MLS listing note that "Property was broken into by vagrants, windows broken. It has been secured and boarded up."

    Here's a look at the crime in the area for the past 6 months. Notice all the robberies and assault charges:

    This is definitely an area I would recommend avoiding. You'll probably have way too many problems managing the property. Not worth it. 

    As for the 1% Test/Rule, it's extremely rare to find a local property that goes above 1%, and it will most certainly be a 2-4 unit multifamily property. But you can regularly get in the 0.80% range for sub-$400k properties. 

    The whole 2% Test rule-of-thumb is intended for $50,000 property that rents for $1,000 per month.

    In California you'd need a $400k property to rent for $8k per month to hit 2%, and as soon as you find one of those let me know because I'll be the first to buy it ;-) 

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