multifamily needing "TLC" - how much to budget for renovation?

multifamily needing "TLC" - how much to budget for renovation?

Investor · Bronx, NY · Member since 2016 · 78 posts · 40 votes

I am currently looking at a multifamily property in the Bronx 3/3/1.

The house is in good structural shape, but was built in the early 1900s.  Though it is in good shape, it has an old pre-war "feel" and has not had the usual flip-style renovations that you find on Zillow.

My questions:

1 - Should the house be priced significantly less than renovated houses of a similar size?

2 - For a non-flipper with no connections or bulk jobs, how much should I look to pay to renovate a 1000 square foot 3 BR apartment in that "flip" style that is all over Zillow (floors, bathrooms, paint, etc)?

Thanks!

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Real Estate Broker · Bronx, NY · Member since 2011 · 597 posts · 341 votes
8y

@Michael M.

@Aaron K. can be correct. 1, 3 bedroom unit can cost you, minimally 30k if it's just updating, but then again there can be more things that need to be done, especially with a 1901 home. In this Bronx market, a 3 family is highly competitive. Is this property listed? There may be some wiggle room, but you would have to be a strong buyer, great negotiator, and know your numbers. And if you are looking at places that need work, start going to home depot and study the prices of materials. You can almost figure you will be paying, in this area, 3 times cost of materials. So if the materials cost 1k, with labor the job should be around 3k. One other thing to add is to get a great home inspector to give you an inspection that you will turn into a punchlist on any property.

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  • Specialist · Riverside, CA · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    8y

    It should be priced somewhat lower due to condition, if rehab is cosmetic only (which it probably isn't in a home that old)  You could spend about $30,000 or a little more if you did everything

  • Investor · Bronx, NY · Member since 2016 · 78 posts · 40 votes
    8y

    Thanks @Aaron K.. 

    - Are you calculating $30,000 for a single 3BR apartment? 

    - Should I expect to have an equivalent deduction from the full price that I pay for the home, or is that too hopeful?  Right now the asking price is about 50K less than a similar, renovated home.

  • Specialist · Riverside, CA · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    8y

    @Michael M. $30k for a single unit especially if it is 100+ years old and you want it to look like a flip when done.  I don't know your market for sure but my guess would be that they won't move much on price and if they do it probably won't be $30k.

  • Real Estate Broker · Bronx, NY · Member since 2011 · 597 posts · 341 votes
    8y

    @Michael M.

    @Aaron K. can be correct. 1, 3 bedroom unit can cost you, minimally 30k if it's just updating, but then again there can be more things that need to be done, especially with a 1901 home. In this Bronx market, a 3 family is highly competitive. Is this property listed? There may be some wiggle room, but you would have to be a strong buyer, great negotiator, and know your numbers. And if you are looking at places that need work, start going to home depot and study the prices of materials. You can almost figure you will be paying, in this area, 3 times cost of materials. So if the materials cost 1k, with labor the job should be around 3k. One other thing to add is to get a great home inspector to give you an inspection that you will turn into a punchlist on any property.

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