First Investment Property Evaluation

First Investment Property Evaluation

Real Estate Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2013 · 60 posts · 28 votes

Hi guys,

I'm running the numbers on my first investment and wanted to get your thoughts. It looks like a great deal to me from a numbers perspective. I'm a buy-and-hold investor and am not concerned with appreciation. This is a turnkey property and I'll be conducting reference calls with some of his other clients and talking with the property manager. For other turnkey and out-of-state investors, what other steps have you taken to mitigate your risk from a distance?

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Location: Indianapolis

3 Bedroom / 1 Bathroom

Completely rehabbed in 2013, list of renovations include:

New decking, new roof, all new joists, insulation, drywall, all new plumbing, all new electrical, new exterior siding, new flooring in all rooms, new kitchen cabinets, new kitchen counter tops and sink, new shower/tub & surround, new vanity, new toilet, all new light fixtures, new tile flooring, new carpets, new doors, new paint in all rooms.

Financial Analysis

The property is currently leased at $775 for 1-year. I've also assumed $2,500 for closing costs. I'm not sure if closing costs are typically included in cash-on-cash, so I've included that metric with and without closing costs.

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Chris ClothierBusiness Member
Rental Property Investor · memphis, TN · Member since 2009 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
12y

@Steve Cook - I would confirm very carefully the closing costs with the lender. At 20% down, a GSE lender is going to charge you points. If you increase it to 25% you can reduce out that money into bought equity instead of a closing fee. Also expect them to tack on a fee for a low price loan. It will balloon the percentage to purchase price that you pay for closing costs. Neither of these are bad things and they will not make the deal go bad, but you just need to be aware of them.

Lastly, a lot of the advice on here is about percentages which is usually the way we think. With a lower priced house, you really need to think in terms of dollars as well. I am not sure of the poster, but someone pointed out that it would take multiple years to save for a new furnace or hot water heater or A/C unit.... Hopefully you get the point. You need to price these things and account for them now. Either by putting the money to the side in an account that you will not touch, or calculate building that fund with your cash flow over the first year or so while you prepare for what will eventually happen.

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  • Real Estate Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2013 · 60 posts · 28 votes
    12y

    @Shawn Holsapple Very interesting regarding the furnace. What about roof replacement, do they typically cost around $5K?

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 557 votes
    12y

    Yes, an average Ranch home roof is $4k-$5k.

  • Real Estate Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2013 · 60 posts · 28 votes
    12y

    @Chris Clothier @Ali Boone

    I spoke with a local lender in Indy who's willing to lend under $50K

    Rate: 5.25% @ 20% with 1 point or 5.25% @ 25% with no points

    Closing costs: $2,100 for title fees, appraisal, recording. etc.

    They can lend at this rate for the first 4 properties, from 5-10 they require 25% down.

    Potential increase in rate of .125% due to the small loan amount, effectively 5.38%.

    A little higher than I had hoped, but ultimately still a very low rate historically, increasing the rate to 5.38% from 5.0% reduces cash flow by $11 / month.

  • Chris ClothierBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · memphis, TN · Member since 2009 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    @Steve Cook You seem to have everything lined up very nicely for your first deal. Best of luck on it and keep us posted. I will be out in the bay area in a couple of weeks speaking to and meeting with a couple of small groups of investors. Feel free to reach out if you'd like to meet up.

    take care - Chris

  • Real Estate Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2013 · 60 posts · 28 votes
    12y

    @Chris Clothier

    Would love to sync up when you're out here. @Haim Mamane Palman is a friend and has spoken highly of you. Will follow-up with you.

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